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Somehow a rumour had gotten out that i had a tattooed rose down my back... Very absurd. The rumour spread as far as other schools I found out when a friend of mine their asked me for confirmation! :O Regarding tattoos, i think some of them can be very attractive. I would have nothing against having one, but would really have to have a reason, as well as a well considered motive. If I were to do it, I would also go somewhere known, where the artists are well recognised for their skill.
[QUOTE=islandclimber;532247]Well I see a poll and thread for piercings so how about tattoos.. Anyone have any really interesting tattoos? Tattoos that you wish you hadn't got? Tattoos with stories? Painful experiences? Enjoy the pain, hate it? self tattoos? anything about tattoos... put it all right here...
or not...:lol:
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well I have one that I realy regret only because of the hell its caused. I got the butterfly its a "tramp stamp" aparently :rolleyes: But ive had to get it redome like 3 times and it keeps fading. but other then that i have a rose, a cross, and a heart with tayler payton martin in it (thats my new neice...shes one month old today :D) but thats it for the moment, until i turn 18, i think my parents finay discovered it wasnt sharpie...lol. as far as peircings, ive done all of mine and the only one i realy want is my tounge, but im going to wait and have that one done pro. tats are addicting.
[QUOTE=stephofthenight;534807]Quote:
Originally Posted by islandclimber
Tramp Stamp? I haven't heard that before. It that the butterfly girls get on their lower backs just above the rear? I've heard it referred to as a target before...:rolleyes:
Tattoos I wish I hadn't gotten: my belated sweet sixteen birthday party, lots and lots of alchohol, and the numbers 1-10 on the back of my knuckles.
The one I don't regret, that I love dearly: little celtic seahorses on the inside of my left wrist.
Actually, any tattoo on a woman's lower back is a tramp stamp, it tells everyone you're easy. As least that's what all my guy friends say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shalot
I have no tattoos, and I don`t even think of having any. I am a piercings person - 12 piercings.
If I was ever to get a tattoo it would be a barcode on the inside of my left wrist so the system could recognize me like in Idiocracy.
so three nights ago, having fun, just back from seeing a musical, I finally decided to tattoo the words "Ars Longa, Vita Brevis" on my body... I'd been thinking of it for quite some time... and well there is no time like the present, so I pulled out my calligraphy pen, my india ink and went to work on the inside of my left wrist, and after an hour and half or so of jabbing a pointed pen into my arm I was done... it is going to need a touch up to darken the lines but I'll wait for a couple weeks until it is fully healed... tattooing yourself, especially when you only have one hand to use, is quite hard... especially when doing the oldfashioned dip and poke... :lol: but it is an incredibly rewarding experience... it is creating art on yourself...
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Originally Posted by Bakiryu
that's such an absurd notion... I don't understand why people have to judge others like that, just for placement of a tattoo... somewhat absurd...
they all sound nice... tattoos are another form of self expression, artistic creativity, whether your own, or anothers... I think they're amazing as long as they mean something to you.. I'm not really into the walk into a tattoo shop and get something you see in a little album because it looks really cool... there has to be some kind of meaning and importance...Quote:
well I have one that I realy regret only because of the hell its caused. I got the butterfly its a "tramp stamp" aparently But ive had to get it redome like 3 times and it keeps fading. but other then that i have a rose, a cross, and a heart with tayler payton martin in it (thats my new neice...shes one month old today )
Is it a tramp stamp for a guy to get something tattooed on his lower back... a girl I know told me it was... and I guess why shouldn't it be the same for male and female... so silly... I want to get a haida raven at the base of my spine, with a vine growing up my spine, and spreading across my upper back with blooming wild nootka roses... this one will mean alot to me... Now I just need someone who can draw much better than I to design it for me... and i haven't met a tattooist who I trust with this one yet...
anyone here like to draw????:D
So I have multiple piercings, and I find them and tats. addicting. does anyone else share this sentiment? What Piercings do you have? and do you think that they are addicting?
^,^steph^,^
I went through my 'addiction' phase over the past few years. I had my nose done twice on each side, septum, vertical labret, lip in three different places, both eyebrows, both nipples, ears at 00g, bellybutton, anti-eyebrow, etc... (not all at the same time!!!)
Now I'm focusing on making my face a balanced piece of art with my favorite piercings: I've got two in my right nostril, and will be getting my vertical labret redone in the center. I also have several tattoo plans, coming into effect starting next July. Also, I'm an ear-lobe stretcher... mine are currently at 16mm, and I plan to take them up to an inch.
I think piercings and many tatoos are beautiful. I would love to get more interesting piercings, but I can't because of my karate. Each session I have to take out and off all jewelery, so, more than the three I have would be a nightmare! Either that or suck it up when you get whacked with a roundhouse to your fresh piercing, and it rips out the jewelery... No thank you. Maybe when I retire after a black belt ;)
Piercings are addicting. I would have had a lot more then just two eyebrow piercings if the VP didn't tell me to stop.
i've only got my lobes pierced. And i dont wear earrings all the time...
Look - I know I'm Old and Grey and therefore Not Keeping Up, but will someone please, please explain to me the attraction of piercings. I cannot for the life of me understand the attraction of bits of metal stuck in any part of one's anatomy, the very thought of some revolts me.
Before anyone asks, no, I do not have pierced ears - my husband was a goldsmith, he offered to make me a pair of ear rings for every day of the year if I would have my ears pierced (he didn't like the limitations to design of clips) but even that did not tempt me. Yes, I wear other jewellery and I wear make-up, but that's temporary adornment, it can be removed. It seems something akin to abuse to have permanent holes punched in one's anatomy - please explain, someone.
No trouble with piercings for me, but I do have a love a tattoos. I'm plotting my back piece, but I think I'll be finished after that. I think the biggest reason I'm not more 'addicted' to them is the simple fact that I want a career in Corporate America. I don't necessarily wish to work for a big company, the small one I'm at is fine, but I do want to go far and be successful. Unfortunately, that is much harder if you have too many visible piercings and tattoos. So I'll content myself with covering my entire back in artwork, and that will be the end of it. I think it is a shame they are such a stigma, since I love mine, and I want more, but that is reality and I must live in it.
The holes aren't really permanent. If you take the rings out, eventually the hole closes over. Even when the hole is present, you can take out the jewelry an if it's a small piercing, like your ear lobe, you really don't even notice the hole. It's just like jewelry. It can be temporary adornment as well, if that's what you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by kasie
Beyond that, some people look at it as a kind of art. Some piercings are actually very flattering to a person's body. They put emphasis on certain physical features that people like about themselves. It's a way of having some control over one's physical nature, of which people don't really have a lot.
I'm not addicted to piercings, but I like the ones I have. In fact, mine all have sentimental value. They were gifts. I have one in each ear lobe and my belly button done. I won't have any more done because they would not look appropriate in my job and the ones I have start to close up really quickly if I take the rings out. The only other one I would consider getting would be my nose.
It ranges from an aesthetic thing to a spiritual thing (suspension being a further example of that). For some people, piercings are very spiritual, or a sign of success, personal reward, etc. E.g. I got my nipples pierced when I was finally comfortable enough with my own body to actually like my breasts. It was a huge step for me to be able to show them to a stranger. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by kasie
My piercings have slowly disappeared over the years; I used to have several in a whole plethora of amusing places, but only have 4 left - a 12g barbel in the left conch, a 14g orbital hoop through the right ear cartilage, and an 18g left nostril nose piercing. I take pride in remembering that out of the something-teen piercings I had, I never got one infection; plus I always remained "symmetrical," as I claim - I always had a balance of holes on both sides of my body. :lol: Some would claim that I finally "grew up," and started removing the metal from my body, but it more seems that some lost their meanings, did not seem a part of me anymore, got in the way, or I lacked time and money to fund getting a piercing and caring for it; I even recall that heartbreaking feeling when removing the small hoop out of my right tragus, because it kept getting in the way of my stethoscope; another I had to remove for imaging studies (CT scans and x-rays) of my chest, abdomen, and pelvis, and it healed over within a day, so I could not fit the jewelry back in its place. Just like those, these last 4 will likely fall out with time, the conch, as my favorite, likely ending up last - a very simple, yet elegant piercing.
As to addictions - yes, piercings get very addictive! I have no tattoos, and likely will not, so I cannot speak of that type of body modification. In a previous human anatomy and physiology class, years ago, my course partner and I, feeling desperate for a project subject, as a deadline approached, wrote a moderately-sized essay upon the topics of the "addictions" of body art from both a neurological and endocrine perspective - yes, highly addictive.
No worries, kasie - some get curious about these things, and an individual passing by another on the street with tattoos and piercings head-to-toe, making one wonder what they look like under all that ink and metal, seems bound to create some questions and cause some odd looks.Quote:
Originally Posted by kasie
I think it safe to say that piercings fit under a firm category of body modifications, and, at that, not quite as permanent as tattoos or cosmetic surgeries, for example. The term "body modifications," I think, can stretch farther than meets the eye, regardless of one's age, background, gender, etc., as all that the term states relates to a modification of one's appearance. Personally, I like women who require little to no make-up in order to look, at least, semi-decent; the appearance of a woman wearing layers of make-up, quite honestly, I find very unnattractive, in the same way that people who do not like piercings or tattoos may look upon someone inked and pierced. Why do some individuals wear make-up? They think such a topical modification enhances their appearance and increases their attractiveness; it may seem easier to remove eyeliner, but it modifies one's appearance, just like a piercing, nonetheless.
Upon giving that comparative analogy, a lot of people then ask "why put yourself through so much pain to have a piece of metal placed through you?" Honestly, I have never encountered the apparently great discomfort of women's clothing when a woman attempts to look nice - everything from high-heels and bras to corsets and frustrating battles with long hair. Why put yourself through so much discomfort, end up with bunions due to such shoes, acute hypoventilation from tight bras and corsets, and higher incidences of alopecia from alleged hair enhancing products? Because the individual thinks it enhances one's appearance, and such sacrifices of physical discomfort carry worth after what they may offer - compliments, attracting someone, fitting in, etc. I have encountered some serious discomfort with getting some piercings, but, personally, if my parents had bore a female rather than a male, I doubt I could put myself through the successive tortures an average adult woman puts herself through in contemporary times. Why put yourself through the pain of piercings? Why bear the discomfort of wearing a thong?
Thank you, people - I begin to understand the thinking behind it. It's just not for me, I think. (Neither are high heels, tight underwear - or thongs, mono!! What you see is what you get.)
A five year old cured me of wearing green eye-shadow: Miss, why are your eyes that funny colour? she asked. Because I have green eyes and the eye shadow makes them more beautiful, I replied. Hmmm, she said, and the look on her face quite clearly said, I think you're fooling yourself and only yourself, Miss. Out of the mouths of babes and sucklings.....
:lol: I'm with you Kasie. I just don't get it either. It doesn't even look attractive to me. But to each his own. It must be a generational thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by kasie
I have three piercings in the bottom of each ear, and would like to add one higher up on both, but I have too much of a babyface to pull off anything edgy.
Hey, I only get to hang ornaments on the Christmas tree once a year. Something's got to hold me over. :D
I don’t get it either, maybe it’s my age, but I prefer the beauty of simplicity over the aggrandizement of excess. To each his own, so I guess that makes me a minimalist. I am so repulsed by pierced lips and eyebrows that I won’t even go through a check out line with a cashier who has them.
Tattoos don’t bother me, but I do wonder why. I had one once on my hand and it so embarrassed me as I got older that I had it removed. Body adornments have fickle life spans in fashion, tattoos go through generational fads and what do you do 20 years from now when they are looked down on as you attend your child’s graduation or seek that job promotion with a spider or dragoon up your neck? Something to think about and I think in ten years, plastic surgeons are going to love all the work they are going to have when they fix all of those stretched out ear lobes.
:rolleyes: It's the people that don't think about whether or not they really want to commit to stretching their ears, or whether or not they really like a specific tattoo before getting it that give everybody else in the body mod community a bad rep. I LOVE my stretched ears, I've had them for three years now, and am slowly taking them larger as I still like them. I've got some stupid tattoos on the backs of my knuckles that are slowly bleeding out and almost gone, and I don't regret them. They mark an era in my life, which well not so long ago, was very important in shaping me into who I am now, and also a very, very different time. Little reminders.Quote:
Originally Posted by grotto
I've also had my lip and eyebrow pierced and would be extremely offended if you didn't accept my service. I'm just as good as everybody else at my job, whatever that may be. Piercings don't change anything >>about<< a person, their abilities, values, etc. I worked at Subway when I had all my piercings (and a giant, neon pink mohawk to boot), and even though I worked with a bunch of low life idiots, I occasionally had people ask if there was anybody else who could serve them :S.
Check out BMezine for some information about piercings, tattoos, and why people get them and stick with them.
(Early morning. That was really incoherent and less than eloquent.)
Ouch! Yes indeed.Quote:
Originally Posted by kasie
As for piercings: I have had my hide both pierced and slashed many times... ...by accident. That is quite enough as far as I am concerned. ;)
/Claes
BeccaT, I’m not attacking you or anyone else for their life style, it is your choice, just as it is mine to refuse service from what I see as a form of mutilation to my eyes that makes me physically ill. Some people don’t like snakes, others spiders, for me, it’s facial piercings. I’m being tolerant of your life style, but tolerance doesn’t mean that I have to accept it nor do I have to agree with it. It’s my choice where I stand in line to pay for services or food, I’m not there to justify your life style, I’m there to eat and the piercings kill that real fast for me.
I was once young and rebellious, I needed to assert my differences and set myself apart from the crowd and then one day, someone said, “I see you are trying to be you, look at me! Terminally unique, just like everyone else.”
I'm a bit minimalist when it comes to things, even my tats, but I've little worry that they'll be looked down on. Tattoos and body art as a whole are increasingly gaining acceptance, even here in the uber conservative USA. I think it IS a generational thing, but the simple truth is that each generation becomes a little more accepting not the other way around. My grandparents were appalled when I came home with a tat, my grandpa viewed it as self mutilation. My dad considered getting one himself, though he's never acted, and my boyfriend/soon to be husband (at that time) traced it with his fingers admiring the intricacy of my Celtic Knot.Quote:
Originally Posted by grotto
Now it's been 7 years since I've gotten it, and there is no regret. It is art, and the only problem I've ever had is in determining how I would like to expand on that art. I take quite seriously all that I do to my body, and I have to agree with Becca that regrets are for the people who don't stop to really think it through. If you have doubts that you'll like a modification in 20 years, it's not likely a good idea to do it. If you are certain and commit, there are no regrets only good memories.
It is amazing the things in your life that things like piercings and tattoos can be tied to and what memories they hold. As for me, I've finally solidified that I would like to add to my back in such a way that honors my journey as an individual, mother, wife, and eventually my descent into old age and all that comes with it. Often the symbology is called the "Triple Goddess". A representation of the maiden, mother, and crone. I'll add to that my own loves in life and things that hold meaning to me such as the sea and literature as well as a possible quote. There is no shame, and I imagine that my kids will do much the same as they do now. They'll trace the designs and know that they too are carried within a portrait of all that is important in my world.
I've only got one piercing on each ear lobe. My parents didn't allow me anything else, saying I would regret it later. (Of course if I went out now and had it done there really wouldn't be much they could do about it... On the other hand they could yank the metal out....)
I wanted a brow piercing a while back, and a few additional piercings by the ear... Some of my friends have gotten their bellies done. I've been thinking about it but I figure I should work on my midriff first ;)
I wonder if I'll ever actually get to having them done. :D
I think I quite share most of your sentiments about this whole piercing-thingy, but I think I understand how piercings can be attractive for some people while they are not so for me...Quote:
Originally Posted by kasie
Just interviewed three young engineering prospects right out of college at work this past week for a job. All three very respectable candidates, dressed well, solid grades, gave good, articulate interviews. None had visible piercings or tattoos. If they had I can tell you I would not have hired him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scheherazade
I guess it depends on the job, but if you want to be a doctor or a lawyer or an engineer or whatever position of responsibility, you got to present yourself as a person of respectability.
Uh. I worked a summer at a courthouse, doing all sorts of respectable things, with all my piercings intact, my hair all shaved off, and my knuckle tattoos. I still know every single lawyer and real estate agent in the area, and I was asked to continue working for them full time. I cleaned it up and dressed respectably and kept my hair (well, bangs) an acceptable color, and despite the way I looked (which has nothing to do with abilities on anybody's part, you can be the cleanest looking person ever and still be an absolute, undependable moron), did a great job. I'm not going to change my looks to get a job: I don't need to, and smart people know that. You can look respectable, reponsible, and intelligent, but still have body modifications. They're becoming more and more prevalent in the world, and too soon, you WON'T be able to discriminate by that factor, because everybody will have them... (p.s. not hiring somebody due to piercings, etc, is illegal ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Virgil
Well I'm happy for you. Doesn't mean that's typical. Who says anyone actually lists reasons for why they pick one over the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeccaT
Plus I don't know what job this was for but it's not an engineer or a banker or manager. I don't think anyone is going to discriminate on this for a blue collar job, but in a corporate world it's disconcerting. I'm not saying one tattoo is going to sink you if it's modestly placed, but can you imagine a CEO having tattoos on his face? Or a piercing across his nostrils like a cow? Can you imagine the President of the US or the Prime Minister of Canada having such things?
I'd like to see that :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Virgil
People who love to discriminate will then find other things to use against people. For instance people like me, then, wouldn't be able to get jobs because they haven't got any piercings/tattoos!Quote:
Originally Posted by BeccaT
Rejecting an able candidate just because he has/he has not got piercing doesn't sound very cool to me anyway. Discrimination just isn't and shouldn't be acceptable in any form (no offence specifically meant to you Virgil, just speaking generally :))
Sure, why not? I certainly wouldn't respect them any less. I just don't get why having mods affords a person less respect. People need to be judged based on their abilities, not on their appearances. I don't want to destroy friendships, so I'm done arguing this. But JMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Virgil
As it is, people have a tendency to divide potential employees into two categories: those with mods, and those without. The categories need to be: those who are capable, and those who are not. If you really feel the need to judge by appearance, leave out the mods, and look at cleanliness. Does this person have good personal hygiene? Are they clean? Hell, the way most people feel about mods, do they have track marks?
*ripping out hair here*
This is ridiculous. I'm sorry. I'm gone
No offence taken. Descrimination of one's ethnicity or religion or race is absolutely wrong. But there are requirements of presentation. If someone came in filthy or in sexually suggestive clothing or spoke with language that had a curse word in every sentence, no matter how smart and capable that person is, he does not meet requirements of presentation. Same thing with tattoos and piercings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pensive
Not sure I know what you mean by mods. But you can read my reply to Pensive. There is a requirement of presentation. One doesn't work in a vacuum at a task. One has to work with many types of people and bosses and customers. A person making a presentation with a cow ring through one's nose is ludicrous and doesn't carry credibility. I'm sorry that's reality. Perhaps in another generation these things will be common and won't carry these associations. But my guess is if it happens then the youth of that day will move on to something else that's shocking. If you dress to shock, then don't be surprised when people get shocked.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeccaT
While I'm there with you the truth is that there are still a great deal of old timers in the business world who have the perception that mods = malcontents. I'm still amazed at the level of prejudice I see in industry in the day and age. I've worked with guys that don't see a problem using racial slurs when speaking about others, or the guy on the county commision who still thinks of women as coffee getters and note takers.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeccaT
Actually, if the company is a private one, they can hire however they like, they're not obliged to give an official justification as to why they didn't hire you.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeccaT
If you're applying for the public sector, well, apparently it depends. Personality rights apply, so usually appearence wouldn't be grounds for dismissal. However, in certain jobs (where a dress code is required, for example) the hiring entity may be justified in not hiring you. Virgil gives some of the reasons why this is so:
This, of course, only applies for certain jobs. Decisions are made case by case, except if it's a private company, in which case there's no issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Virgil
[this according to the Portuguese law, by the way]
Me too :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mkhockenberry