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Kant is not necessarily an argument against atheism. In fact you say he can be used for as the 'thing in itself' must still be a thing. and 'god' is no such thing. Anyway,Kant be bothered with philosophy anymore. It just a way out of the fly bottle. Maybe its better not to enter the bottle in the first place.
Kant was a man with an extremely funny seriousness of which he was totally unawared.Quote:
Originally Posted by Theunderground
There are many who I could declare stooges of reason, Aristotle being the first, however elementary and full of gases. But here is a conversation between three possible ones having achieved a little more Protagorian sophistication.
George Berkely- My dear fellows, lovers of reason, all of the aspects of perception are in reality the ideas present in a person's mind. The observer doesn't make objects exist out there, but rather the certainty of their existence is introduced in him directly by God. What God doesn't give him makes him divinely ignorant.
Immanuel Kant- Not only that, George. The basic principles of science are strictly based on the structure of the mind much more than on the external world. Take heed that because of a favor God has granted us, we know with absolute certainty that 2+2 = 4 a-priori. Those who admit not knowing why it is so are the ones that accept ultimate truth and describe it without being able to explain it.
Albert Einstein- God didn't play die with us. It is so. I can only describe it; cannot explain it. He who flies faster in vaccuo gets fatter, denser, and lives longer. It's like a miracle that requires a lot of imagination and not much of any particular knowledge.
George Berkeley- Then, dear Albert, I haven't the slightest of doubt that being thin causes premature death. It's a paradox. We should fly faster and reach for heaven the earliest. Thus fat, dense, and pinkish, we could get there like cherubins, not like the boring seraphins that usually accompany us.
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I like Mary Wollstonecraft and Baruch Spinoza.
Every philosopher in history,even the top three Nietzsche,all zennists and Wittgenstein,were really comedians,court jesters and bufoons. The thing is the aformetioned three were aware of this defect. The entire canon of philosophical wisdom,east and west,could probably be written in a couple of pages.
Søren Kierkegaard!!
He is the genius.
As you are in this thread, making serious philosophical arguments and para-phrasing Wittgenstein, then methinks you *are* bothered with philosophy! Now you can argue against that - but if you do, I win again :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Theunderground