i cant take pian physically or amotionally so love is not the right thing for me!!!!!
i can only love when i get married (if i ever do)
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i cant take pian physically or amotionally so love is not the right thing for me!!!!!
i can only love when i get married (if i ever do)
I can understand that. I wish you happiness anyway :cool:
Not meaning to sound rude our anything, but you can't shield yourself from love. It's not something that can be controlled. You can try, you can pretend it isn't there, but it still excists. It'll make life a lot easier if you accept this.
You say you want a peaceful life, but at the same time say are not willing to love because you are afraid of losing the love of your friends. I'll say this, if they are truly your friends, no love can break that bond. They will support you and be there for you when love is beating you down, and share your joy when love lifts you up.
Of course, love is not without dangers, but the pain it can cause will happen anyway, even if you want a peaceful live, love is unstoppable, and when you try to turn your back to it, it will hit you in the face like a ton of bricks, walking all over you, making you feel miserable. It is much better to open up to love, and be accepting of it. It'll make it's warmth reflect of your face. It can still kick you in the face too, but at least you'll see it coming, so it won't walk over you.
Anyway, I just had to say that, only wish I could have worded it a little better.
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Originally Posted by AimusSage
WOWWWWWW!!!!!!
You simply left me without words while I was reading your post!!!!!
I totally agree with you. I believe also that those who have experienced these feelings will agree too.
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"To fear love is to fear life, and those who fear life are already three parts dead." Bertrand Russell
love between man and wife, love between parents and children, love between friends, are these different loves? or just the same love in various camouflage?
many philosophers believe that there is a kind of justice exicts beeyong time and space. a Chinese philosopher calls it kindness. and some western philosopher say that it is knowledge.
maybe it is love that is dominating the universe.
or god in whatever religion. :nod:
myself,
It is not "love" that caused these problems for you.
It is the situation that caused them.
A bad relationship with an immature person, perhaps... Maybe so-called friends that did not treat you like a friend... Maybe you just weren't ready for a relationship yet.
I don't know the details of what happened, so I couldn't possibly say what DID cause the problems.
I CAN say, however, that "love" itself did not cause them.
If you are in a relationship that made you unhappy, and blame love, rather than the relationship, you are doing yourself a grave disservice by not taking a good, honest look at what happened so you can learn from it.
If you simply blame love, you are bound, almost guaranteed, to repeat the same mistakes.
Don't use love as a scapegoat to avoid life's problems because it simply does not work.
That's my advice.
Take it for what you may.
I can't believe what you have written ..... I actually thought you may be joking.
Love has no prescription. Love can not be bought. Love is down to chemistry - and i do not mean in a lab. I mean - you can't describe love. You just like someone and from there it grows into love.
Yes we live in an era of immense capitalism - but love can not fall into this realm.
Although it is no place for me to judge, but if your girlfriend really said what you say she did about the BMW - do you really want to be with someone like that? I would rather be on my own.
Love does exist but it won't if you don't allow yourself to believe in its existence. love is probably one of the only things left in this world that is free.
“They all want to escape from the pain of being alive. And, most of all, from love… It’s no good trying to fool yourself about love. You can’t fall into it like a soft job, without dirtying your hands… It takes muscle and guts. And if you can’t bear the thought of messing up your nice, clean soul, you’d better give up the whole idea of life, and become a saint. Because you’ll never make it as a human being.” Jimmy Porter Look Back In Anger
Love is a substantial extension of one's own being into which one's strength is freely, willingly poured, to embrace and support and secure the utmost well-being of another's whole personal essence.
OK one_raven i dont really blame love for everthing that goes wrong, i blame the opposite sex( no ofence), people say they are "in love" with some one else and start a problems. thesame problems started againg today. the same friend of mine got into a fight with the same girl that dated the guy she "loves". this girl again went out with new guy my friend "loves". im really fed up of this whole "i love him and he hates me" me thing between girl and boys.
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Originally Posted by Mililalil XXIV
How profound! Yet holds a very sensible and critical message I have been looking for...thanks for opening my eyes... :thumbs_up
Okay! Time to put it into action! :cool:
Love is profound, love is magical, love is unfathomable. Love can pull a person up off the ground as if on wires, yet keeping one's feet upon the earth is critical to long-lasting, emotionally-fulfilling, adequately-hyphenated relationships.
More later.
May sound silly but... for me, love is closing my eyes, and being able to feel the person I love, even if we're miles apart... it's never being alone, even when there is no one around... never sleeping alone again, even when there's no one to share the bed with... because I know that somewhere, he's thinking of me, as I am thinking of him. To quote one of my favourite quotes... "there is some madness in love... but there is also some reason in madness"
Now the realistic part of me comes in and adds: it's a pity a heart can be so easily broken... because, at least for me, the wounds of betrayed love never completely heal...
Hm... I think I'm getting to paranoical even for my paranoical way of being ^_^
no it's actually right i mean to me because love is when you feel somthing for someone, and that something is so strong there could be miles between eachother but you are so close at the same time...
Love can never be defined no matter how much we try to, else it's magic will be lost should it be bounded by mere personal descriptions. Yet still for me, it's also immesurable, and unbounded by time and space...by flesh and bone...by any matter this whole exsitence can ever create...I don't see it as something infinite (still mathematically calculable) but something eternal...beyond everything...
And a nice definition from Banshee and Chef :thumbs_up
Love is what you all long to have writing so many pages about it :)
heh, never has the truth been summed up so acuratly.Quote:
Originally Posted by onions
"You"? I wonder if by contributing you should include yourself within "you", else you might be wrong. Lest you are willing to admit that you don't have love; then you might just be expressing yourself here. And that would be fine. I don't think that we need to be told about ourselves in here.Quote:
Originally Posted by onions
Good for you, tn2743. The comment to which you are responding is the product of very little thought but a great deal of presumption. Why not argue that all the writers we discuss here are in need of love? – they write even more about it than we do. You will always get smart-arse comments from those who know very little but assume they know others.Quote:
Originally Posted by tn2743
Signed - a man desperate for love. :lol:
hey can we get 2 know each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Unnamable
hello, how are u doing, let get to know each other first.
I'm sure the pleasure would be all yours. :D
Haha thats cute. I've been away for a bit (good to see you again!) so I confess to only having read the last page so far. Anyway ... "what is love?" ... C. S Lewis wrote a brillient text called The Four Loves. Its a pretty easy read and you can probably find it almost anywhere. If that doesn't suffice for what love is, try the fourth chapter of John's first letter (my personal favorite).
I think that english needs more words for "Love".
The "Love" that we discribe as ethereal, magical and undefinable is really infatuation. Infatuation is quite a lovely state to be in, and the more you feed it, the strongers it gets. This feeling is experienced by everyone at some point, and it is generally the jumping off point for "Love".
The next "Love" is that love that you see in couples that have been together forever. This love is born of mutual sacrifice and mutual dependancy.
Mutual Sacrifice:
People who have this love have begun to overcome their natural self-centeredness and SHOW "Love" (the action), even when they don't FEEL "Love" (the infatuation).
The clincher here is that BOTH parties must be willing to do this.
Mutual Dependancy:
Over time, these couples are able to recognize their partner's sacrifice and be grateful for it. They also simply get used to each other, and begin to feel utterly comfortable with each other.
(And yes, "Love" absolutely includes NEEDING...if I didn't NEED my husband, why in the world would I miss him when he is gone? By definition, you cannot have love and complete independance, you must choose one or the other.)
By any definition, this girl did not love you... Someone who is that caught up with herself Can't Love. In the meantime, save up your money so you can buy a BMW for a girl who REALLY loves you! Does your mom need a new car? Wink
Love to me is this:
-Flying to her home city to surprise her on her birthday.
-Saying how much of a friend you are, when thats all she/he wants to be.
-Being there for them at that exact time their hearts break and they could not feel more alone.
-accepting their choices in life.
-Loving them.
Thats what i feel. hope it helps in this forum.
I have no idea exactly what love is, what causes it, or how it works. I doubt if anybody does.
I can tell you that the unrequited kind gets really old after a while.
ah unrequited love
ay amor es una tortura
im in love :P
To me love is one of the only things you can't possible explain with any sense of logic..
love consist in in the very rare moment where you feel utterly happy.. a bit like meditation, several aspects of life melt together and you see the world in a different light..
In those moments you feel an indescribable sense of unity... feeling that way towards another human being has nothing to do with materials of the evey day life, it is much to rare for reason..
Love is an attraction. It is not a thing, it's the word we use to express a profound attraction for someone. (or thing...)
hullo Blonde, how are you kitten?
Hey Joe, miss you.
To me real true love doesn't have much to do with ourselves as being first in anything. Feeling happy,warm fuzzy feelings is to me simply having desires gratified. Babies have that feeling as soon as they are given the breast or bottle, changed, given a toy or food they desire. But that is not love.
To me love is being kind and gentle and good and thoughtful as well as supportive to another with absolutely no thought of getting something back. Viewing the other as so important and worth while that one's own desires come second.
On the other hand love, to me is also never bending the core of who I truly am and what I honestly stand for to impress another or let them have their way when it would be wrong for he/him and disatrous for me. To lose who I am is to put that person in a position of a god and then I would be incapable of showing true love to that person. I would cease to exist and merely become an extension of the other.
True love, to me, always seeks the highest and best for the other no matter what.
And meaness and spite and revenge have absolutely no place to me in the realm of true love, whether that love be directed toward a lover, friend, child, parent.
love is more thicker than forget
more thinner than recall
more seldom than a wave is wet
more frequent than to fail
it is most mad and moonly
and less it shall unbe
than all the sea which only
is deeper than the sea
love is less always than to win
less never than alive
less bigger than the least begin
less littler than forgive
it is most sane and sunly
and more it cannot die
than all the sky which only
is higher than the sky
ee cummings
oh sweet guy,
that is very pretty.
hope you are well.
Oh boy!! :banana: Both TN and Rachel! Hi guys. :wave:
A lot of what has been said here is absolutely true. Love itself probably does exist outside of what we know as reality, and it surfaces in true caring-not just about human beings but about the entirety of our lives in general. Obvious you view love in a more natural state, meaning loving another human being. Your ex-girlfriend seems to take a more materialistic view of life, in that love cannot exist without things to support her internal value structure. I'm sure it's not that you didn't share love, but that your value structures are so different that it was difficult to maintain love based on each other's view of life. Don't worry. There's someone, maybe many someones, out there who will share your value system and there's no harm in waiting, learning, and trying people on in the process of finding them. It will be worth your wait to know that the person you are with will share not only your life, but will reflect your values and feelings in a more appropriate manner. ;)
Love is a name we give to certain "phenomena". It is more about a name, a definition we use to identify those certain feelings, than a proof for the existence of something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aragorn
Does love exist? It depends on the definition, on your definition.
That girl you like has a very different one from what we are used to read in books, watch in movies or see from people around us, but you must have your own one.
If yours is the same with heirs, then try to improve yourself, try to get what she wants, but if yours is different, then just let her leave. You'll surely find someone fitting to your heart. :)
The word love:overused, under-rated and Falsely claimed. But the emotion? A point of discussion since the beginning of human life....I still haven't figured it out. i don't know how to describe it, but i do believe that love exists and we love everyone at different capacities. Some more truly than others. Maybe this girl couldn't understand the capacity of your love. Or, maybe she did not have the capacity to love you completely without outside factors. Either way, i'm sure you will find someone who will love you as strongly as you love them.
It simply means a natural feeling of likeness toward something.
I disagree. Naturally liking something is attraction, not love. The difference, as oh-so-many can attest, is considerable.
John 15:13
Greater love has no one than this, that someone lays down his life for his friends.
That is love, to me.
As Rachel said, the verses in Corinthians define it as well.
Love is a magnetic pull, that which draws us to other like beings. But when it's based wholly on EROS it can't last, being just the biological urge of one body towards another. No permanence there. For as the body alters with time and may become boring in its very familiarity, so interest diminishes. Whereas AGAPE is the higher urge, the pull of one kindred mind/soul to another that only gets better through shared experience.
Message to Aragorn: Your ex girl friend, who wants a BMW, isn't really "into" love. At least not at this point in her life. She's after status symbols, material things that will make her feel good about herself. She needs to grow up, emotionally, before she's ready for a deeper connection. So don't "cast your pearls before swine" any longer. Keep looking. Your real soul-mate is out there somewhere and when the time is right, you'll find her.