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Well, I'm American and I spell it goodbye. I dont think that I've ever seen it spelled like that. But I have seen people spell "See you later", "Cyal8r" so who knows what those crazy Americans will do next. ;)Quote:
Originally posted by fayefaye
I HAVE to ask, do american's REALLY spell goodbye 'good-by'?? THAT'S CRAZY.
I've seen british do the cul8r thing, and worse *sighs*
Aww thanks Faye! Wow I'm not that bad as rough translator, if I had dedicated more than 3 minutes to it I might have done a vrey good job ;)
fayefaye- is that falling quote from Catcher in the Rye?
of course. :)
I read half of it today... haven't got there yet.
got...gotten? haven't read that yet....there we go.
I know I'm posting three times in a row.... but does anyone have any other thoughts on this book?
fool, that quote is towards the end
gotten is American English, got is British. Unless I'm mistaken :D
yeah... I finished it the other day... it wasn't half as good as I remembered it.
lol. haven't gotten there yet? nah, that can't be it. :) I finished the catcher the same day I bought it, I think that ruins it a bit, because all the syntax gets to you, and all.
Other than that, holden reminded me a bit of Tom from the Glass menagerie. hmm.... will write more later.
I love reading a whole book in a day. It gives you such a round sence of completion.
So do I- I try really hard to finish any book in one day unless it is something REALLY impossibble of The War and Peace or Ulysses proportions.It does give a rounded off feeling!
I jaywalk like Phoebe. Absolutely mad. Most of the time the cars slow down. Except for this one time when some guy stepped on the gas! Illustrious game of chicken. He/she stepped on the gas, and I stopped walking. :p In the end, they stepped on the breaks, and I ran like anything. I'm such an idiot. I'll get myself killed one day. But the way I figure, THEY are in a car. I have to walk and catch public transport everywhere I go. THEY should wait for ME. Life's too short to stand there by the crossroads, hoping they'll stop. Gotta run, run, run!
Please don't visit Philly or San Francisco, faye ;)
haha or Bracknell. Once a guy swerved out of a round-a-bout and off the lane part of the road to try and hit me. Than he turned around, went back to the round-a-bout and left in a different direction. What a jerk!
LOL...here they never stop... Crossing a street is becoming the most dangerous task of life. When they do stop I start crossing veeeeeery slooooooowly to piss them off (cos most dont really stop, just slow down- if I'm that slow they eventually have to stop. Until the day they don't ...:D) When I drive I stop to make pedestrians cross, especially if there's a car behind me, again to piss them off: I detest having cars 2 cm behind me, it drives mad!
Yep... I hate tailgaters too.... especially on the freeway... I have stopped before on the freeway just because someone is tailgating me.... I slowly slow down... 75...65...55..........35....25......0. I can't wait till I am 21 and can get a conceiled weapons permit... then I can feel a heck of a lot safer when I'm pissing people off.
lol. freaky s***, fool with a concealed weapons permit.
both my parents have them... i intend on getting one asap ... er... as soon as legally possible... asalp
wow sorry to generalise but that sound so...American. Never ehard of anyone wanting to get a weapon to piss people off when driving here... even if we definitely have roadrage.
I remembered how much I wanted to be 18 to get a driving licence (yep 18 here), to be independant (public transport sucks here, I often had to ask my parents to drive me at friend's houses).
Nothing relevant happens at 21 here, it's just a birthday like all the others. *feels suddenly very old*
Stupid constitution. Nothing here about gettting big guns to ring in the new year. I can't tell you how disappointed I am.
lol... I already own several firearms... its just that I can't legally conceil them in my vehicle... so they would have to be in plain view (and could possibly be stolen)... and I just like the security of having Betty Lou next to me... its a good feeling...
please note it would only be used in defense... and when I get road rage... i get passive aggressive... not aggressive aggressive. :-D
Can anyone give me a quick outline of this book. I think I got it but I feel that i missed some of the points the author was trying to make.
Fool, I'm scared. :) cass, do you have to do an essay on it or something?
Not really, just curious. I found it really interesting and was just curious.
Read it again. I find that if I pick somthing up myself, its much more rewarding than if someone tells me about it. And don't feel bad. When I finished it I was blown away, but I was also like "uh... what the hell?" So I read it again. Its short enough that you can do that.
Oh yeah, also try searching this forum's archives, because I know that we had a pretty in depth discussion on it a few months ago.
Thanks
I want to revive this discussion with a question you've proabably all considered:
What do you think happened to Holden after the novel?
I like to think he found some kind of harmony and sense in his world. Other people on the net say his fall didn't end, and he was destined for the bottom.
hmmm... I imagine him working at McDonalds for the rest of his life.... just because that is his sort of luck.
I imagine him surviving life until he becomes one of those increadibly bitter old nursing home men.
You think his talk with Mr. Antolini meant absolutely nothing? I'm sure some of what he said stuck to him. Now I'm starting to think he turned out as a lonely old hobo.
I used to think that he'd straighten up and find some consolation in some people he'd eventually meet and fit in with. Finally finish school, maybe.
I bet he did something good.
I don't think he did. I saw the book more as a warning. Like, "Don't become bitter and unhappy like Holden."
No! I saw it like 'You can overcome bitterness and unhappiness' Holden, at the end, doesn't he go back to school? And he talks about how nice it is, sitting there watching Phoebe, like it all worked out.
I had a test today, and I couldn't stop thinking about catcher because '**** YOU ****' was written on the desk in big, fat letters.
I can't see it written and not think about Holden desperately trying to remove it.
I tried to rub off the biro, but it was kind of carved into the wood.
read it some yrs back .. great read .. esp if you are a high school kid ... the book would touch you (not that it would touch others!)
you mean wouldn't right?
wow, i just finished this book 2 weeks ago.
your point?
fayefaye's point?
I read it in 10th grade and hated its guts. Although my friends and I still call each other 'sexy moronic bastards.' Holden was a hypocrite; he didn't like phonies, but he always put on a fake face for everyone. He's an example of one of those hypothetical young men who think they are Napoleons but are actually quite ordinary, to allude to Crime and Punishment.
I don't think he would actually go through with suicide, because his unhappiness was just more like narcissistic bitterness. He's gonna live a bitter, unfulfilled, perfectly ordinary life.