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You have to kind of get used to the idea of what a parable is meant to be, and what it is not meant to be.

Monastics and celibates and renunciates of many different religions concern themselvs with virginity in the sense of purity of mind as well as physical purity.

There may quite possibly be some "spiritual" significance to the number 10.... there is certainly thought to be a significance to the parable of the women who had ten coins, and lost one coin, and burned a candle worth MORE than the value of the coin, in order to find the lost coin.... there are NINE orders of angels (cherubim, seraphim, archangels, angels, thrones, dominions, powers, principalities, etc) which symbolically accounts for nine of the coins (the ones NOT LOST) but humanity is the tenth lost coin, and the candle which is worth more than that which is lost and is sacrificed to find that which is lost is the crucifixion...

but parables are not intended to undergo gynecological exams or to split hairs...

Parables are meant to be thought about in a certain
ways, and are not meant to be thought of, or
analyzed in other ways.

There may well be some great significance to the
number ten, (but not to the number 20).

Certainly there is thought to be a significance to
the number ten in the parable of the woman who had
ten coins and lost ONE. She burned a candle which
was worth MORE than the lost coin in order to find
the coin. There are reckoned to be nine angelic
orders (according to one verse in the Epistles):
seraphim, cherubim, archangels, angels, thrones,
dominions, virtues, powers, principalities).

http://www.sarahsarchangels.com/archangels/9orders.html

So the NINE coins which are NOT lost represent the
nine orders of angels. The tenth coin WHICH IS
LOST is humanity, which has fallen. The candle
with a value GREATER than the lost coin, which is
burned, (sacrificed) in order to find the lost coin
is Christ, the crucifixion.

Parables are not designed for gynecological exams
or hair-splitting.

In every religion which has monasticism, celibates,
renunciates, both men and women are concerned with
physical purity and chastity as well as mental
purity, but this is very difficult to achieve.

Even Jesus said to the Apostles, "Some are born
eunuchs, some are made eunuchs by others, and some
make eunuchs of themselves for the sake of the
kingdom of heaven. Let he who has been given this
ability practice it." (paraphrasing from memory, I
dont have time to look it all up right now.)

There is an old Taoist Chinese saying:

"When the wrong person employs the right means, then the right means yield the wrong results."

We may easily understand this statement if we look at software such as Photoshop, or Pagemaker, or drawing/design programs. They are the "right means" in that they enable anyone who can click a mouse to do what only an artist or technician might do manually. But, often they are used by the wrong person, someone with no artistic sense, lacking the eye of a typsetter or graphic artist. Hence, in the hands of the wrong person, the right means yield the wrong results.

My brain hurts...I want to go back to land of the lost...I can't help myself, when Sitaram writes, I read and read and re-read, I haven't touched a book since I got to this site.

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Originally Posted by papayahed

And why were 20 virgins waiting for the bridegroom anyways?

Were some of the virgins men? why is it that when we(or maybe just I) hear the word virgin we/I always assume it's women?

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The virgins are considered as women because Jesus is said to be the "husband"..The union between Jesus and his church (the chosen/the wise virgins/). You have to realize that Christianity apply paternalistic poin of view.

Yes, the Church is the bride of Christ. But the church is composed of males and females. Yet, in the argument between the Sadducees and Pharisees, regarding the woman who married all 7 brothers, one by one, each in turn passing away, (namely, which would be her husband in the ressurection), Jesus answers that in the ressurection, all will be genderless as the angels, neither marrying nor being given in marriage. The picture which Jesus paints is in stark contrast to the paradise which Muhammed describes, where each male shall have 70 supernatural houri virgins, known neither by human nor by jinn (spirit). Sounds like quite a sexy paradise! No mention seems to be made as to what the women do in this paradise.

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Originally Posted by Sitaram

Yes, the Church is the bride of Christ. But the church is composed of males and females. Yet, in the argument between the Sadducees and Pharisees, regarding the woman who married all 7 brothers, one by one, each in turn passing away, (namely, which would be her husband in the ressurection), Jesus answers that in the ressurection, all will be genderless as the angels, neither marrying nor being given in marriage. .

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I don't know where I heard this but I remember in school the reason nuns didn't marry was because they were already married to Christ/the church.

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The picture which Jesus paints is in stark contrast to the paradise which Muhammed describes, where each male shall have 70 supernatural houri virgins, known neither by human nor by jinn (spirit). Sounds like quite a sexy paradise! No mention seems to be made as to what the women do in this paradise

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See, that annoys me. How can someone (women) follow a religion that doesn't mention them, or their eternal well being? Isn't that the whole purpose.

Here is a curious factoid for you. The only religious movement ever to be started by a woman is Christian Science, founded by Mary Eddie Baker.

Only two religions have names which denote a quality to be cultivated in the practitioner: Islam (which means submission) and Buddhism (Budh means awake, enlightened).

The oldest CONTINUOUSLY PRACTICED religion is that of the Australian Aborigines, which may be dated back 50,000 years based on religious cave drawings. Next to that, the oldest continuously practiced religion is a toss-up between the Shaivites (who worship Lord Shiva - again based on archeological findings) and the Jains (who are quite similar to Buddhists in many repected but were already well established during the lifetime of Siddhartha Gautama, the historical Buddha.)

The Wold Almanac, under statistics for world religions, indicates that there are 19 million Sikhs in the world (the men wear those turbans), yet only 14 million Jews. At the moment, the entire world population is between 6 and seven billion. There are one billion Chinese in the world (hence one in every six people speak Chinese). There are appx 1.2 billion Muslims. There are appx. 1.7 billion Christians (1 billion Roman Catholic, 200 million Eastern Orthodox, and 500 million "Protestants" divided into hundreds of denominations. There are only 3 million Jains in the world. There are only 600,000 Zoroastrians in the world (partly because conversion to their religion is strictly prohibited, you MUST be born into a Zoroastrian family.)

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Originally Posted by Sitaram

Here is a curious factoid for you. The only religious movement ever to be started by a woman is Christian Science, founded by Mary Eddie Baker.

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I liked their magazine. Too bad it was discontinued. The newpapers has too much information, I can't handle all that information, day after day....

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Originally Posted by lhaeber

My brain hurts...I want to go back to land of the lost...I can't help myself, when Sitaram writes, I read and read and re-read, I haven't touched a book since I got to this site.

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Yeah I agree......when Sitaram posts I gotta take notes and do research just to follow the postings........but its all good!!!

If you are really interested in finding out more about the dinosaurs and about creation, I would refer you to this site: www.answersingenesis.org Search for dinosaurs, and you will find alot of information comparing the views of evolution and creation. Then you can choose the view you like- evolution or creation.

Aren't you all getting off the original subject about dinosaurs here? :nod:

You people are probably making wildchild4god78 so confused, here! :confused:

Well, if you're going to suggest answers in genesis, you might enjoy www.answersinscience.org as well. heh. Though on the topic of being off-topic, the "wildchild" hasn't replied to this thread once in the past 16 days, so I doubt she was doing much more than posting for the sake of seeing the brief reaction gained, considering the complete lack of discussion from the original poster.

Good idea. Try comparing all the "facts", (from both sides), and THEN make up your mind on which you think contains the most 'evidence'.

Yeah, I'd suggest doing that as well.

Considering one has "facts" from one solitary book written by men and the other has "evidence" which verifies "facts" in physical structures found in the Earth that can be classified and measured appropriately as accurately as possible.

Indeed, there is scientific evidence, if you do look. I don't think evolution has any real evidence, if you ask me. They might be frauds like the pitman skull, I think it was.