macbeth is shakespears worst book

Iago does define the play, he is the central character (according to some readings). And I would argue he is a nihilist. And by the end, I think after killing Desdemona Othello becomes a nihilist of some sort too. The problem with the play is that the ending is unsettling, it not actually ending happily, and instead drifts into a dark depressive emptiness, rather than a kathartic ending. I think in his end years Shakespeare was striving to create that sort of ending, and gets probably closest in Lear, with Cordelia's death, and the gloomy ending on Edgar, who, as the audience knew, was going to follow sooner or later.

What does this have to do with Macbeth, your in a whole different play. I think that Macbeth is one of Shakespeare's best plays.

Was just answering the previous poster, no need to get all antsy.

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Originally Posted by EndoGlastic

What does this have to do with Macbeth, your in a whole different play. I think that Macbeth is one of Shakespeare's best plays.

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thanks for infusing this thread with your meaningless opinion. we all apprecia:alien: te it

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Originally Posted by JBI

Macbeth is not about ambition in the sense that you understand it. Most teachers (I assume you are in high school, otherwise you wouldn't create such a mess) have no clue what they are talking about when teaching Macbeth.

It is about sexual frustration, and its affects. The whole play shows how Macbeth, unable to preform sexually, and have a child with Lady M, tries to satisfy her by making her a queen, and thereby brings about their downfall. It is about their relationship deteriorating, and the destruction of Lady M as she succumbs to guilt. It is certainly one of Shakespeare's most mature works, and most definitely one of his most fantastical.

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Whoosh...

That one threw me off. I've never heard of this before (granted, this is my first visit to these boards). I can't for the life of me remember anything in the play that suggested this. Do you perhaps have some quotes I can read?

EDIT: Or, if this has been explained elsewhere, can you link me to it?

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Originally Posted by Trooper

can you link me to it?

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I unsuccessfully sought an explanation here: Macbeth is sexually frustrated?

I think Louis Red has a cute monkee, and jist 'cause he's from Arkansauce don't meen he's retard. :D

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Originally Posted by JBI

In terms of literary style, Macbeth is far more developed than Romeo. I do not agree with your reading, and I find parts of your post offensive, not to mention vexatious because of the flashing smilies (does anyone know if there is a way to turn them off?).

Macbeth is not about ambition in the sense that you understand it. Most teachers (I assume you are in high school, otherwise you wouldn't create such a mess) have no clue what they are talking about when teaching Macbeth.

It is about sexual frustration, and its affects. The whole play shows how Macbeth, unable to preform sexually, and have a child with Lady M, tries to satisfy her by making her a queen, and thereby brings about their downfall. It is about their relationship deteriorating, and the destruction of Lady M as she succumbs to guilt. It is certainly one of Shakespeare's most mature works, and most definitely one of his most fantastical.

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Yeah I'm wondering if you have quotes to back this up as well. Not questioning you or anything just wondering if you can direct me somewhere.

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Originally Posted by kevinthediltz

Macbeth deals with ambition. A powerful aspect of life that we can all relate to. it also has evil and betrayal worked into it. macbeth was an amazing play.
Ive found that shakespeare can be boring if you read it in prose. Read the play and read it out loud, its better that way.

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I agree with you there. I just finished Macbeth and have a test on it on tuesday.

I think Pericles is his worst.

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Originally Posted by hollylite

I agree with you there. I just finished Macbeth and have a test on it on tuesday.

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Thank you. Man, that was almost a year ago, but thank you.

No prob. I thought that the play was good, but I didn't like having to write summaries for each act.

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I think Pericles is his worst.

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Who is Pericles? I don't recognize that name.

Shakespeare is hard for alot of people to "study" in school. And I know from experience it hard to really get into his plays. So dont feel too bad. ;):lol:

Okay I won't. I think that it can be very exciting to study. I still think that doing summaries on the acts are dumb though.