I can and I have.Quote:
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Why not?Quote:
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Because they know exactly what they're doing.Quote:
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I can and I have.Quote:
Originally Posted by pam
Why not?Quote:
Originally Posted by pam
Because they know exactly what they're doing.Quote:
Originally Posted by pam
No it isn't. A system that defeats itself is a contradiction.Quote:
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No it isn't. A system that defeats itself is a contradiction.
u cant show me the end of an irrational number therefore you cant point to it on a real lline your system just defeated itsself-as the greeks clearly saw
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as billyjack pointed out
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Originally Posted by cuppajoe_9 View Post
An irrational number is one with an infinite number of non-repeating digits. They typically represent such values as the area of a perfect circle, which do not occur in real life. *Points on a number line to a spot slightly to the right of 3.14*. There's pi.
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i think this quote points toward what the creator of this thread is saying. mathematics had to create things that dont exist in order to make their system work. thereby, and tell me if i am wrong here pam69ur, a system that needs things that dont really exist is a contradiction
your seystem just deeated itself
Yeah, but dude I can point to an irrational number on a number line. And I already have. In addition, that would not show that the system defeats itself, even if it were true.Quote:
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I repeat: two and two make five. All of those are rational numbers. Show me the contradiction.
you cant [point to a number that never ends there for you can never point to it on a real line
your system defeats itself
how can a number that never ends exist on a line that does end
I don't even need to point to any irrational numbers to make two and two equal four. Like changing the topic much? 2+2=4. Conradiction is where?
And, in any case, an infinite number of decimals does not make the number infinitely large. I've showed you a number line with an irrational number on it. Get over it.
u cant point to the end of an irrational number there for how can an irrational number that dont end exist on a line that ends
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There are an infinite number of geometric points on a finite line, because geometric points don't have any length. It isn't a contradiction, you just don't understand it.
without length they are nothings
therefore
so how can an infinite number of nothings ie have no length add up to a finite length-
how can an infinite number of nothing add up to say 3 cm then say 10 cm both length contain an infinite number of nothings
yourseystem defeats itself again
Nope, it doesn't, because geometric points don't actually exist.
And, in fact, irrational numbers have nothing to do with the statement 2+2=4, which you still can't point to an inherent contradiction in. Also, you keep saying that I can't do something which I've already done. Several times.
I'm done. If you would like to keep repeating the same arguments over and over, you can just go back and read my earlier posts. Goodbye.
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Nope, it doesn't, because geometric points don't actually exist.
how can an infinite number of non-existents make a finit something
u say numbers are quaintities so 2 cm is made up of an infinite number of non-existents so when i add 2cm +2cm to get 4cm i am really adding two lots of ininite non-existents to get another sum of non-existent infinite nothings
and you say your system is not self defeting and meaningless
sory u can say it as long as u have breath but you cant point to something that has no end
I grow tired of "meaningless" words.
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I grow tired of "meaningless" words.
great now you can give up reading philosophy and beliving in the explanations of maths and science
you are getting the point of dean at last
Point? There was a point?
yes everything entails meaninglessness even nihlism maths -the most rational of human endeavours - science every product of human thinking -even meaninglessness
cuppajoe_9 even shot himself in the foot when he pointed out a line is made up of an infintit number of non-existents which when added together give us a finite length
Clearly your math is different from mine. A line IS made of of an infinite number of points, regardless of its length (so long as it is positive).
Frankly, I think that you're the one that shot yourself in the foot when you claimed that nihilism had a point.