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juketay
You are right Pensive. In order for children to become assimilated into society properly, it is important to have a variety of experiences and be exposed to differing opinions and views. This enables them when they are an adult to think for themselves and form their own opinions. In a way this is exactly what public education does not promote; public education is for the lowest common denominator and influencing all of the students to share the same views ("group-think") and thought-control through various means, including peer-pressure. (If you want more you can pm me)
Go to your local public school, walk down the hallways and see what behaviors you would want your child to emulate.
In the public school system, children are segregated by age, and have very little interaction with other adults (except for their teachers). This environment only promotes alienation from different age groups, especially adults. This is beginning to look like the real socialization trouble.
Homeschooling in no way “alienates you from society”. The “real world” is all around us; through the TV, newspaper, grocery store, driving down the street, gas station and weekend outings. Just because you homeschool doesn’t mean that you live in a bubble.
Okay, the image you give of pubic schools doesn't seem very pleasant, but here, the problem lies with "schools". If only good conditions would be provided there, things would be better. Schooling in an institution should be made compulsary because it makes sure that a child is getting education. I don't know whether you will ever understand it or not, but with the culture like that in my country, what's necessary is education and here the concept of homeschooling means the child wouldn't be taught much about Geography, Physics, Chemistry, Biology and Maths (in most cases). Wouldn't it be better if the Government makes this necessary for children to go to schools? Many children in my country don't have telivisions, newspapers, computers, and don't have proper access to books. On the other hand, if they go to a public school, they have a chance of getting a scholarship, and books for free if they give good result. And remember the geography and history of your school is not easy to learn without having books/proper guidance.
And now you will say that children can have their parents teaching them but what should they do if their parents don't even know how to write down their names? And this is the condition in most of the developing countries. There are even some parents who think "education" would take their children nowhere. If only government set school compulsary, parents will have to send their children to schools.
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andave_ya
No, they can like whatever they please and I don't have to like it, but then, don't make me talk to them. It's not for lack of trying that I say this, Pensive, I KNOW people like that and seriously, I'd rather watch Barney the purple dinosaur.
Who says you have to have long friendly conversations with them? You just have to learn to live with them, bear the sight of them without resenting them.
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Furthermore, I don't have to be influenced, I am influenced regardless. Even though I like to think I am beyond it, I'm not. As I said in an earlier post, I've started taking college courses where people curse every other word and not think anything of it. Coming from a Christian background, every word was like an electric shock but now I find the words creeping into my thoughts and I find that seriously alarming.
Weren't you yourself critisizing the girls you wear make-up? If you have a right to critisize, then they do have it as well. :)
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Differences in opinion? I don't care if people believe that God doesn't exist as long as they don't try to make me believe He doesn't. It isn't differences of opinion, it's differences in aspects of faith. Public schools want to brainwash people into believing evolution without even telling them of creationist viewpoint. Public schools don't want people to believe in God because the propaganda is that man is self-sufficient, all-wise and all-powerful. All I need to do is look at history to see for myself that it is otherwise.
I am sorry for that, didn't know public schools at your place were like that. In my area, they are vice-versa as a matter of fact.
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And, you're assuming my mom is untrained. My Mom had a thorough education through college in Lebanon. She was computer programmer, trained in logic. When one has mastered logic, other stuff isn't difficult to master.
Oh my goodness, why would I assume your mother is trained or untrained? It doesn't matter, really. What matters is that every child doesn't have a trained mother. Neither do they have uncles who are professors of Algebra. :)
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I think the main problem is that people see homeschoolers as unstylish lazy slobs who don't care anything about education. Please, please, dig underneath that surface and find the dedicated people. Visit
www.hslda.org
for more information.
I never saw homeschoolers as unstylish lazy slobs or something like that. Nor do have I any reasons to think so. My reason to why "schooling should be made compulsary" has nothing to do with this. I have explained this in the very start of this post.
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Competition. Why do I need competition if I already want to learn?
Wouldn't it be easier for you to learn with a group of students who "have interest in studies"?
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Real life experiences. I don't live in a bubble. I take classes outside my homeschool courses. I go on field trips. I go on the internet. I take vacations. I go to concerts. I go shopping. I take road trips. I visit friends. I read the newspaper. I watch TV. I go to the movies.
The only difference is that I select what I want to see, and that doesn't include young people swearing themselves blue and doing all sorts of unpleasant stuff.
Good for you. Being an idealist can be good, and can't be other times. You don't often come across good people in life: and afterwards you have to cope with people swearing themselves blue and doing all sorts of unpleasant stuff. I wouldn't like to go deep into that argument, for the sake of being on the topic. But even if you disagree with me here, you might agree that every child can't afford these road trips, newspapers and tv, and that's why I think schooling should be made compulsary.
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And finally, Pensive, I don't think I'm particularly amazing. I understand a multitude of stuff but the only place I can actually be "brilliant" is when I am speaking of obscure literary stuff that nobody cares about.:D
When did I say you thought you were amazing? All I meant was we all stick to our opinions, otherwise why would we be here giving our opinions like this? Even if we are confused between our opinions, we do have this thought that "our opinions matter too". :D
And people do care about literary stuff, at least here in this forum. :)
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My Mom understood everything perfectly, and if that didn't work, my uncle is an algebra teacher. The only problem was with myself. It took me longer to comprehend the material.
As I already mentioned, everyone doesn't have an uncle who is an algebra professor or a mother who understand everything perfectly.
I am sorry for having repeated things so many times, but couldn't restrain myself from that.
