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:idea: charlotte i think that in the beggining the pigs may have not liked the humans. Towards the end of the book the pigs communicated with the humans because they (the pigs) figured out that the humans ran the farm fairly well, if they did what the humans did then the could rule Animal Farm.
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but wouldn't you think that because of boxer's strength and hard work that the animals would look up to him, instead of the fat pigs?? i don't get how the pigs could out rule boxer?
ok well going to kristen's comment. if the pigs knew that the humans' way of running the farm was good, then why would they make up the commandments about the humans being bad? the pigs told the other animals that the humans way of ruling things was bad. so why would they totaly contradict themselves?:confused:[/COLOR][/COLOR]
ok well going to kristen's comment. if the pigs knew that the humans' way of running the farm was good, then why would they make up the commandments about the humans being bad? the pigs told the other animals that the humans way of ruling things was bad. so why would they totaly contradict themselves?:confused
oops sorry i posted that twice!! :goof:
hey everyone-
i agree with andrew ... each species of animal seems to represent a different class or group of people in our world today. there are people [resembling the dogs & other horses in this book] who tend to understand & recognize wrongdoing when it happens but never make a stand, like the animals on the farm they let injustice occur.
Regarding Julia and Kristens' conversation about the windmill, I think that the main reason Napolean wants it finished is to show everyone up ... to give the illusion to other people & animals that Animal Farm has made the right choices and is getting along well.
oops ... what i wrote was replying to the first page ^^ [i didnt see the other two]
Question: What on earth is going on with the relationship between animals and humans in this book? Humans seem to understand the pigs as they run the farm ... but does it ever mention farmer jones understanding any of the animals??
interseting..what does the windmill represent? something that thousands die for in russia but doesnt help them at all...something that will never really be done but keeps pple working?
I was wondering who Mr. Jones was in the story relating to russia. Someone before the Russian Revolution obviously but who? Are the bordering farms Germany and...China? Does the warring between the humans attacking animal farm represent any particular wars and with what countries? whatsup with benjamin anyway? why is he so lazy and unhelpful when he could do so much.
were the pigs always corrupt? this is a broad Q but heres my take on it. In the beginnning like someone pointed out, major was always elevated and the pigs always sat in front. this hints that they were superior but they are almost rightly superior because they are more intelligent and hae ideas that could improve the farm. but if you look in the very beginning of the animals taking over, the pigs are always the leaders. the milk and the apples were just the beginning. but..were the pigs always corrupt. when they were ruled by the humans were they nasty and evil or did they only become this way once they took over and had power and authority. this brings up the topic of whether humans can ever be fair and equal. power corrupts. could humans ever run a governement like the one set up in animal farm? i dont think so i think the lure of power, money and sex are far too great. people are going to divert from their origiinal path of equality to favor their own needs. it often just starts out in little things, appples and milk but it grows and become even more deadly to a society.
Hannah-
I think that Boxer was killed by the pigs because there was no more use for him. Also the profit of selling him to a glue/marshmallower could help pay for other needs. The pigs were evil dictators. What they couldn't use, had no reason to be on the farm. Who wants clutter? Probably what they thought. It's sad, but true!
i totally agree with myah. the pigs would promise all the animals retirement to keep them happy, but they would be unable to, or more likely, just didnt want to spend the food and energy to keep animals around that could nto work anymore.
sry spelled maiya wrong
off da topic but id b sick to have a giant pj party sometime
So... uh... How long does everyone think that Animal Farm stayed 'intact' after the book? But I guess I'm acually asking how long was the Russian Revolution? Were the dogs representing followers of Stalin/Napoleon?
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