"life" and "afterlife"?

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Originally Posted by Shield&Sword

In islam soul is something that was created by God, and its connected in the body in every part of it, when the person die this soul begin to disconnect from the body begining as i remember from the lower part of the body untle it reach the throat, that why we hear the person who is deing try to breath inside, because he is trying to get his soul back when it reach the throat, especially people who didnt behaive as God wanted or didnt believe in him. At the point its finished death period began and the person will meet what made in his life before death, did he admit God created all? did he do as God wanted or he prefaired to live as he want saying there is no god and bad?. Some islamic scholars described the connection of soul with body like water that enter in a stick in a nice way.
Exactly what is soul no one know only God know, what it's nature and so oon questions. Not knowing the soul i think its another test for people, who believe and who doesnt.
Death give more meaning to life, thats why prophet Muhammed pbuh encoureged us to visit cemetery so we will always remember our last home and believe in God and do good deeds as we can. all are sure that they will taste it, no one will excape it, what did people prepaire for it?

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Very interesting Sword&Shield.

I firmly believe in after-life.Without this concept this life is meaningless.

with you Mansoor:thumbs_up

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Originally Posted by mansoor3

I firmly believe in after-life.Without this concept this life is meaningless.

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And why is that? You're not saying that the Atheists have meaningless life just because they don't believe in the afterlife, are you?

“Whether you live several hours, or several years, matters not, once you have lost eternity.” - Jean Paul Sartre


This thread has a few interesting ideas relating to this topic.

Interesting what life mean to ahteist, because once a person said to me you die and thats it, when i look which material life we got before we die i see it only drinking and sleeping and working and perhaps with evolution thought to fight so we survive. Interesting really the meaning of life for atheist. Because they believe all came by chance and so we did, so how something came by chance can have a meaning, because the action that happen "BY CHANCE" is already without meaning. Things that happen for a purpose got meaning, and the meaning of that thing is the same puropse for which the action accured.
My point is that no matter what meaning you got for this life it will be material and limited (for atheist), perhaps you live to get something and you consider it meaning, so when you get this thing will life have meaning? The question that it's answer will be "the meaning" is only "WHY?", why i eat? so i can live that is the meaning of eating, why i work? so i can by food and live thats the meaning of working, as you notice all these meanings you didnt create but you found them since you were born and you are going according them by force, Why i exist? answer this and you will get the answer, by the way the right answer will be a meaning that you didnt create but the meaning that you were for, in other words not by your choice. Perhaps i am wrong, but thats how i look at things.

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Originally Posted by Shield&Sword

Interesting what life mean to ahteist, because once a person said to me you die and thats it, when i look which material life we got before we die i see it only drinking and sleeping and working and perhaps with evolution thought to fight so we survive. Interesting really the meaning of life for atheist. Because they believe all came by chance and so we did, so how something came by chance can have a meaning, because the action that happen "BY CHANCE" is already without meaning. Things that happen for a purpose got meaning, and the meaning of that thing is the same puropse for which the action accured. Perhaps i am wrong.

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From the Atheist himself and I consider him as one of my good friends in this forum (Hope you're doing okey, AP :wave:)

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The question of life's purpose, has always been a favourite question for the religious. This is because there is no real answer to the question, and therefore the questioner can play upon the desires of his or her audience for meaning.

We are creatures that require meaning, purpose, justification. We thrive on the idea of life beyond life, because it gives a purpose to our deeds and our beliefs. But we have absolutely no reason to believe in a universal purpose to life. There are plenty of should's and ought's about it, and we can help our fellow creatures, both human and non-human, and this may make us feel a whole lot better about life, but purpose? I'm afraid there is no PURPOSE in big important letters. It is good to help others. It is good to live healthily, both physically and mentally. It may even be good to leave something that represents us behind when we expire. Life is for living. And maybe we should just live life as best we can. What is best will always be an individual, personal decision.

http://www.online-literature.com/for...4&postcount=21

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I added something to my previuos post.
So as i thought, no meaning you got for this life, "FOR YOUR EXISTENCE" do you got meaning or not that is the meaning of this life, then why you asked the user above you if he is saying that atheists got no meaning to life. Here you admit you dont have. If helping others make you feel good, then those who cant help will be useless in this world and thier life for sure got no meaning. For you helping others is good, for others killing others is good and raping, they think its the meaning of this life are they right or wrong? and why?

I'm not here to agree or disagree with your post. I just posted AP's comment to give input from both point of views (theist and atheist).

I thought you are an atheist and was so interesting for me to understand things, because always i see users write sayings of philosofers as they are absolutely right, or to talk in philosofic way or sweet talk, and this i dont like, i like directely to the point without using other's words.

Shield, your views about life and after life are interesting. I did not know that there is something called 'pre-life' and there are more than one after lives. I have not come across this view point that some people consider this life as a preparation for after life.

After life is something we have yet to know. Both scientific theories and spiritual ones are not convincing in point of fact.

Without afterlife there would never be justice for the injustices of life. The only way i can bare the pain of being unable to help all those who suffer, is knowing that when finally peace is upon them, there will be justice.

"Without afterlife there would never be justice for the injustices of life. The only way i can bare the pain of being unable to help all those who suffer, is knowing that when finally peace is upon them, there will be justice."

If everyone who professed a belief in the afterlife remedied such injustices as they could, there would be no injustice.

An afterlife is something that is in very interesting, and that takes roots in humans' domains,that is in a different world