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fayefaye- nice gaiman quite :D one of my favorites.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=oracle There's the definition of "oracle" ;) I'm usually not one to nitpick, but you're acting like you yourself know all, apparently without looking things up first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Holy Grale
You can see there that the general definition of an oracle is a god, or a person who supposedly has a connection with a god, who gives answers to people, usually involving future events. So it would seem to me that Otto's remark about knowing everything but not being an oracle was both a valid remark, and a bloody sarcastic remark that you were supposed to laugh at and then disregard.
Also, after Adam and Eve were exiled from the Garden of Eden, what was to stop god from making more people? Though I think the two answers otto gave are the most probable, it seems to me that God could have simply created more people, knowing that now humans wouldn't live forever, so they would need to procreate more, and have more genetic diversity.
No, if God had created more people himself, they would have been perfect, as Adam and Eve were before sin. It wouldn't have been fair for God to create people and not give them the same oppertunity that he gave Adam and Eve to live forever in perfect harmony. The other people, the ones that procreated with Cain and Seth were created by Adam and Eve gettin' down. And as has been previously stated, that far back ago they wouldn't have had to worry about genetic desieses. Marriage within family was common practice even in Abraham's time (Approx 1900 years later). Genetic desises from interfamily procreation have only been discovered in the past 600 years.
I see your point, and it's a good one, but one should also keep in mind that the God of the Old Testament wasn't what we could consider to be a completely fair god. True, he gave the Hebrews the idea of "Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth" which is in essence fair. But it wasn't a kind, compassionate fair like we think of today. It was a cold, harsh, scales o' justice kind of fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by IWilKikU
Perhaps, by his reasoning, if Man had already tasted the fruit once, man would just do it again, so why waste time? Might as well just hurry up and populate the world to prepare it for the coming of his Son. Or maybe he did give several other couples the chance after Adam and Eve, and they all made the same mistake. Perhaps those couples just aren't mentioned because the Hebrews were directly descended from Adam & Eve's children?
I just think it's kind of strange for them to mention Cain & Abel (their oldest) and then Seth (who was born many years later, I believe, and was probably the youngest) and yet none of the ones who were born in between. Of course, it would also be odd for them to only have add three children. Genesis is really just rather odd.
It hadta be a relaive... people were incestuous at the time....
and they had no other choice... it wasn't wrong.
Not so. The God of the OT is the same God from the NT, and the same God that exists today. The way God behaves can only be related through the OT authors' understanding of God. If September 11 had been recorded by an OT author it might go somthing like this,Quote:
I see your point, and it's a good one, but one should also keep in mind that the God of the Old Testament wasn't what we could consider to be a completely fair god. True, he gave the Hebrews the idea of "Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth" which is in essence fair. But it wasn't a kind, compassionate fair like we think of today. It was a cold, harsh, scales o' justice kind of fair.
And in the first year of the reign of George Bush, son of George Bush, son of George Bush, it came to pass that his daughters were caught drinking underage. They were found to be, in thy mercy, the bearers of false identification cards. So The Lord, in his wrath, finding The United States to be evil in his sight, sent 3 fully fueled jets to be the harbingers of doom upon the major economic strongholds within thy realm.
See what I'm saying? The authors thought of God as vengeful. Any catastrophe, from earthquakes to catching a cold, had to be the result of a sin. This wasn't necesarily so. Sometimes bad things just happen. God wasn't sitting up in heaven with his lightning bolts waiting for some one to do somthing smiteworthy.
God is unfair, was the basis for the war in heaven and the split of the angelic host. If you really believe that God was unfair, you've been duped by the father of lies. God is always fair. Life is not.
I'm sorry, I thought Kane killed Abel.
Parthenogenesis.