Do muslims love Jesus (peace must be upon him)???

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Originally Posted by lover of jesus

Sorry for my late coming and sorry for putting j insteade of J it bothered me just like you , one day some one asked me what do you do if you see your parents? I said enthusiastically I hung them!!! I meant I "hug" them ..
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I dont ignore there is deferent conceptions for Jesus" peace should be upon him" in both Islam and Christianity

In Islam Jesus is a great prophet who was supported by miracles like other prophet Moses Noah and Mohammad .when God sends prophets he sends with them miracles to believe them, Jesus miracle was his delivery with no father like Adam how was born without mother and father so why couldn’t he be God
because Adam, Jesus and other prophets are created by almighty Allah who has the all power to do whatever he wants he can create a man without parents by one word 'BE' and it is

In Christianity he is God….other said he is the son of God or he is the father the son and the holy spirit in the same time …the conception of Jesus in Islam as great prophet who we should all respect and love him is more logical than any other conceptions
REGARDS

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If Jesus is just another Prophet why was HIS coming Hearald(Announced) by all of the Great prophets and by Celestial Angels naming Him" Emmanuel "(God with us)? It is not a question of degree of logic,it has been written and is believed or not.Muslims LIVE their faith as Christ instructed Christians to,with Much Prayer an Fasting trying to live a life of virtue.It is evident Muslims are more dedicated to keeping the LAWS of faith than is the majority of "feel good" neo Christians.However on this point we must agree to disagree and practice our faith in Peace.
Respectfuly,okmit

okmit, in my opinion, though sure you could perceive it as `extreme' or `harsh', starrwriter is using `sarcasm' here to get their message across, and more importantly they are not directing their post personally to any one specific member.

If you reverse what they're saying, it's basically the message that is posted here more often than not, (and they're using the pretty common concept that `believers' are going to go directly to heaven), that if you don't `believe' then you won't get into heaven etc. etc.

They have the option to be contrary here. That is what discussion and debate is all about. If everybody agreed there'd be no point for these topics, right?

Although I will ask everybody, if you choose to participate in these discussions it's expected that you show some respect for each other's beliefs/faith etc. and that you don't resort to hyperbole to get your point across.

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Originally Posted by starrwriter
Associated with The Rapture, one of my favorite Christian ideas. That's when all non-Christians go directly to hell to begin burning in agony for all eternity. How's that for tolerance and compassion from followers of the Prince of Peace?

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Originally Posted by okmit
And to think LOGOS said I was HARSH!It has been said,a little knowlege is a dangerous thing.I was asked to give my source of information, so if you would like to give credence to your statement give the source.Hmm?

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Originally Posted by Logos

okmit, in my opinion, though sure you could perceive it as `extreme' or `harsh', starrwriter is using `sarcasm' here to get their message across, and more importantly they are not directing their post personally to any one specific member.

If you reverse what they're saying, it's basically the message that is posted here more often than not, (and they're using the pretty common concept that `believers' are going to go directly to heaven), that if you don't `believe' then you won't get into heaven etc. etc.

They have the option to be contrary here. That is what discussion and debate is all about. If everybody agreed there'd be no point for these topics, right?

Although I will ask everybody, if you choose to participate in these discussions it's expected that you show some respect for each other's beliefs/faith etc. and that you don't resort to hyperbole to get your point across.

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Logos, how is it a self professed nonbeliever can post" saracasticly "about others Religious beliefs on a Religous thread and when ask for the basis (source)for their misconception it is I that am accused of hyperbole,or prsonal attack?The point was Not that only believers would go to heaven,it was said that Christians believe THEY wiil be the only ones caught up in the Rapture!I happen to be a Christian that is aware it is written that the Righteous will enter into Rapture and be spared the trials an tribulations.I have no idea who is or who isn't Righteous nor does anyone else.I think it was apprpriate to ask where this idea was percieved.You may note I never recieved a reply.Hmm?

I welcome "nonbelievers"to respectful debate.It can be an enlightening expieriance for them on their quest for truth and ease them into a gnostic experiance.However Posts such as the" Kringle and cookies "followed by the "oops I almost forgot...Amen", is not only DIS-respectful but down right antagonistic!To make a blanket statement of what any religious sect does or doesn't believe should have a doctrinal source,and should not be construed an attack when requested.You may note that I was ask and I complied.
God be with you,okmit

To okmit: there is nothing wrong with asking someone to provide a source :) though we can't make them do it nor expect them to.

Whether somebody `believes' or not is neither here nor there for me. I am mainly here to Moderate behaviour, not thoughts or ideas (except where they are inappropriate for under 13s etc.)

The reason I posted that you were `harsh' was specifically because you suggested that if you weren't Christian you would invoke `jihad' because of two different members' use of the small letter `j'. Even hotmail does not recognise case specifics for addresses so it is quite common to see small caps used for `proper nouns' --> on the internet, or it was a typo, who knows?

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the below is a general comment not addressed to anyone in particular..

I've posted in concern when someone has resorted to using HUGE fonts and bolding, excessive exclamation marks etc. to post their message when I think that is uncalled for in these especially emotional areas of the forums. So I suppose sarcasm or attempts at humour is not the best way to go here as it seems to increase negative response or perceived `disrespect' towards another's `faith'.

That is all that is asked of here, I don't think it is too difficult a concept, that everyone try to see each other's side of the issue, and respect it. If you personally take offense at what someone else writes, I'm sorry I can't really help you with that because it is very subjective. I have a very difficult time being objective here, given the content. I apologise if I ever come across as not being objective, but I also ask people to try to understand my position too, as a Moderator.

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Originally Posted by lover of jesus

Sorry for my late coming and sorry for putting j insteade of J it bothered me just like you , one day some one asked me what do you do if you see your parents? I said enthusiastically I hung them!!! I meant I "hug" them ..
Well…..

I dont ignore there is deferent conceptions for Jesus" peace should be upon him" in both Islam and Christianity

In Islam Jesus is a great prophet who was supported by miracles like other prophet Moses Noah and Mohammad .when God sends prophets he sends with them miracles to believe them, Jesus miracle was his delivery with no father like Adam how was born without mother and father so why couldn’t he be God
because Adam, Jesus and other prophets are created by almighty Allah who has the all power to do whatever he wants he can create a man without parents by one word 'BE' and it is

In Christianity he is God….other said he is the son of God or he is the father the son and the holy spirit in the same time …the conception of Jesus in Islam as great prophet who we should all respect and love him is more logical than any other conceptions
REGARDS

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I absolutly agree with you. May God bless you.

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Originally Posted by lover of jesus

…the conception of Jesus in Islam as great prophet who we should all respect and love him is more logical than any other conceptions
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Funny that none of the Muslims I know (hundreds of them), never said anything of respectfull or nice about Jesus. Maybe it's merely cause of lack of information.

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Originally Posted by subterranean

Maybe it's merely cause of lack of information.

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yes....

One of principle in islam we should believe in all prophets,
, love and respect them

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Originally Posted by subterranean

Funny that none of the Muslims I know (hundreds of them), never said anything of respectfull or nice about Jesus. Maybe it's merely cause of lack of information.

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Yes, you are right. But don't confuse Muslims and Islam. You will be so surprised to know that not only hundreds but millions think differently from those whom you know.

salaam alaikum

of course muslims love Jesus (may peace be upon him) he was a prophet. Jesus was a muslim just like all the prophets. meaning submitting to Allah and teaching people the teachings of Allah on how to live your life, all praise be due to Allah. All this other religion besides Islam (no disrespect) isn't going to give you the the peace that Islam gives you, every other religion is connected with symbolism, jesus, crosses, statues, gods etc... which connects you to life and blocks your receptivness to Allah and the path you could be guided on. cuz if you checked it you would no that everything you do should be expending for Allah and preparing for death, and the prophets came with that messege and the koran is Allah's words and a direct sign from Allah. Allah see's all that has come before, the present, and the future, so people just need to chill and read that book.

one luv

Hello "Lover of Jesus"

As you may know 'The Sermon on the Mount' is one of Jesus's most celebrated teachings. It was intended to be easy for normal people to understand:

"Beware of the false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but
inwardly are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Grapes
are not gathered from thorn bushes nor figs from thistles, are they?
So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. A
good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit.
Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the
fire.
So then, you will know them by their fruits."

Amen..........................

May Allah allow us to spend our eternity in the presence of all His Prophets. Amen.

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Originally Posted by lover of jesus

…the conception of Jesus in Islam as great prophet who we should all respect and love him is more logical than any other conceptions
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A very interesting argument.And humane too.

I thought the subject of faith surpasses that of reason, or logic. There is a text that says "the Heart has its own reason that Reason knows nothing about." So when the value of truth is measured only by logic, then it will only produce a partial, or incomplete, or relative result. Logic is..is...Oh what is logic, anyway?

There are cases, which are not extraordinary, that you can still comprehend something though you cannot logically explain your comprehension. And, I think that's what makes human is so unique a being.

As a rule, a creator is (has to be) greater than its creature. So is God, the Logos, greater than human, the logikos. The Logikos cannot contain the Logos. The Logikos can only understand what becomes its part to understand. As for the rest, it can comprehend only when it is given the capacity to comprehend. Given by whom? By the Logos, of course.

Now, if a subject that we call "God" does not have the capacity to take for himself the very nature of a human being, his creation, can that subject be truly God? does that subject deserve the place, the function and the name of God?

When we want to understand God, we must stand under God.

But, we are vulnarable creatures. We have not patience. And, to make the picture worse, we have pride and enjoy it....

And, as far as I know, my reading the history of the world shows me that human Reason, or Logic, or Ratio is always only a subject to human pride.

Bhekti: You've slightly lost me but the point I was trying to make was that religous teachings are inherently open to interpretation

You are aware that Islamic scholars have the benefit of hindsight

We are all blessed with logic and the ability to rationalise - unlike animals (maybe!)

This enables us to understand each other and achieve peace :yawnb:

dear readers

it is really a thorny question because we don't know how do u think about Muslims... anyway the answer is , YES, Muslims do love Jesus because they were asked in their holy book "QURAN" to believe in all the prophets of Allah and the miracles they were sent withand also respect all relegions