Do You Believe In the paranormal and Did you ever experience supernatural Phenomena?

One day I met a guy in a professional meeting, he was a ceo of a firm and a former director in Microsoft. Someone told an esoetric joke, I laughed, he stared at me telling me that karma exists. And he told me the Race of Snakes would return (what's that I asked; well it's the nazis), and he asked me to read a book which supposedly describe a guy who has been visited by an spititual guardian and explained him a lot of things about Ghosts, the future etc. For example Ghosts would be people who would stay too much attached to earth for some reasons (like they have been assassinated and they look for revenge).

Well I'm a rationalist, since I never experiment such things, I have no reason to believe in writers who are writing for money or propaganda so I just report the book's story :D

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Originally Posted by NewWorldOrder

One day I met a guy in a professional meeting, he was a ceo of a firm and a former director in Microsoft. Someone told an esoetric joke, I laughed, he stared at me telling me that karma exists. And he told me the Race of Snakes would return (what's that I asked; well it's the nazis), and he asked me to read a book which supposedly describe a guy who has been visited by an spititual guardian and explained him a lot of things about Ghosts, the future etc. For example Ghosts would be people who would stay too much attached to earth for some reasons (like they have been assassinated and they look for revenge).

Well I'm a rationalist, since I never experiment such things, I have no reason to believe in writers who are writing for money or propaganda so I just report the book's story :D

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That is interesting and it seems to be a bit far fetched even for me who does believe in spirits. I feel the future is unwritten until it becomes the past and we are the writers of our own future. NewWorldOrder what made you pick that name? Just curious it reminds of the new Nazi's group but I do mean to imply you think that way, by all means I do not know how you think. I also feel everyone should be skeptic until proven otherwise. :)

From the several interviews I watched on TV, psychic or paranormal often define their capability to predict the future or see mentald description of other people, as sixth sense. Some even said that everyone has sixth sense but not everyone capable to develop it; or some are actually gifted with sharper intuition compare to others in general.

I do think there are some people with higher sensitivy or mental awareness towards others and their surroundings; and this make them capable in seeing or hearing things that common people may taken for granted.

On the other hand, there are practices which can sharpen your common senses, like hearing, seeing, or tasting. A simple example, in one old show of "Only in America", I saw a man who work in a big ice cream company and his main (and only) task was to create new flavours of ice cream. His tounge was so sensitive to flavors, that he was able to differentiate tiny difference of ingredients of an ice cream flavor.

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Originally Posted by mono

What do you all think of the sixth sense, if it indeed exists?

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What do you all think of the sixth sense, if it indeed exists?

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This is a little off topic, but I do believe in a sixth sense. Please don't ask me to try to explain it, as I really cannot. Besides, many would simply ridicule what I would have to say anyway. Ancestor, you will probably understand what I mean by auras. That's as far as I go. I am one Westerner who doesn't think all Oriential things just mumbo-jumbo however. Since I suffer from chronic illness, my Oriential Doctor taught me a principal of I Ching that I did not know (I've studied a lot of things!) to help me deal with stress. It works great! :)

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Originally Posted by Ancestor

That is interesting and it seems to be a bit far fetched even for me who does believe in spirits.

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I have no reason to believe in anything that Science hasn't demonstrated yet. It's out of the realm of science at the moment. I'm scientist that's the reason why I just wait for science to discover the truth: I won't go into sects or believe anything I read as fiction.

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I feel the future is unwritten until it becomes the past and we are the writers of our own future.

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This is rather a sociological belief than a scientific belief. People are endoctrined to believe for example that the schrödinger equation in quantum mechanics justifies this. In truth it is just one of subjective interpretation called the Copenhague interpretation which Schrödinger himself doesn't agree with. More and more scientists are discovering that Nature is fundamentally deterministic but appears to be random through chaos theory for example. Now for the mere mortal it doesn't change much: it's like in a role game: everything is predetermined by the game algorithm though you won't be able to predict precisely enough to do so because of the many combinatories that are possible.

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NewWorldOrder what made you pick that name? Just curious it reminds of the new Nazi's group but I do mean to imply you think that way, by all means I do not know how you think. I also feel everyone should be skeptic until proven otherwise. :)

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Read my former post and you may guess why: I'm fundamentally anti-nazi and against so called New World Order which is in fact crafted for the first time by Mussolini. But people forget history and when they hear about New World Order of UN they think it's a socialist kind of order whereas socialism is not the one dreamed by people, it's just a manipulative instrument that is used by the neonazi.

When I met the guy above, I didn't care much about what he said because I thought he was kind of mad guy but since I have assembled information that show there are indeed something going on and most people aren't aware.

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Originally Posted by Pendragon

This is a little off topic, but I do believe in a sixth sense. Please don't ask me to try to explain it, as I really cannot. Besides, many would simply ridicule what I would have to say anyway. Ancestor, you will probably understand what I mean by auras. That's as far as I go. I am one Westerner who doesn't think all Oriential things just mumbo-jumbo however. Since I suffer from chronic illness, my Oriential Doctor taught me a principal of I Ching that I did not know (I've studied a lot of things!) to help me deal with stress. It works great! :)

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Yes I do know what you mean by auras and I do have a good sixth sense also. :) Only my sixth sense is more emapthic ability then just mere intuition but feeling illness, emotions, and auras as well. I practiced Tai Chi for stress which also worked but I have not done it for a few years now. Pendragon would please tell where I can look into I Ching principals. I wonder if that is part of Qigong or QI healing principals? I would love to learn to improve my whole being better due to I am not doing a good job at the moment. Stress is way too unhealthy for anyone. I feel we all have a sixth sense but some of us choose to use it and some do not want to tap into it let alone acknowledge sixth sense even exists. It is each to his or her own.

i'll have to read the last three pages one of these days, but as for now, i'll just be self-centered and voice my own opinion. :p

yes, i do believe that ghosts exist, but i really wonder what makes people always assume that they're the souls of dead people. maybe ghosts are, you know, just from a whole different world. maybe those who look like people we know are the doppel gangers from another dimension. :p

this may be a little unrelated, but i was just thinking, maybe we're really not the only living things in this universe. you know like before columbus and all the conquistadors, the europeans didn't know about the native americans? why, maybe earth is just like one of the isolated continents, and one day people could be so advanced that they could go to another planet in a flash via airplane. and the history that the students learn in school would be mainly about the universe as a whole and about the earth just a little.

maybe i've read too much sci-fi.

ah, so there's a discussion about sixth sense. well, i heard it really depends on each individual; some people can sense and others just don't. some people, therefore, can see ghosts and other miscellaneous spirits while others--who became skeptics--can't. maybe it has something to do with your genes after all. (i've read the god gene by who knows who that basically says some people are more spiritual than others. "god" can probably be replaced by "ghosts.")

my family uses the words "ghosts" and "demons" interchangeably, but in my opinion, ghosts can be either good or bad (think casper), while demons are undoubtedly evil. then again, this is the opinion i formed four years ago. i will have to come up with a new one. both ghosts and demons, incidentally, are subgroups of "spirits." other subgroups include genies, poltergeists, vampires, etc. now that's the lesson of the day.

i also trust science most of the time, but i don't believe that science has the answer all the time. i'm sure everyone has heard of ghostly anecdotes. well, i really like the one with the tourists and the photographs. this one happened to my science-sy professor, by the way. he was visiting a place somewhere and decided to take pictures of the head tribe or something. but then someone nudged him and told him he needed to ask the head tribe's permission first, and because he didn't, he wasn't going to get any of the pictures. and so when he developed the film, all of the pictures were fine except for the one of the head tribes: they were blank. another student shared a similar story.

i don't think this is just a coincidence and that there are some supernatural/paranormal/outlandish power somewhere out there. one we obviously have yet to understand.

Only Hamlet's dad, Banquo, and the one in "Blythe Spirit."

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Originally Posted by NewWorldOrder

This is rather a sociological belief than a scientific belief. People are endoctrined to believe for example that the schrödinger equation in quantum mechanics justifies this. In truth it is just one of subjective interpretation called the Copenhague interpretation which Schrödinger himself doesn't agree with. More and more scientists are discovering that Nature is fundamentally deterministic but appears to be random through chaos theory for example. Now for the mere mortal it doesn't change much: it's like in a role game: everything is predetermined by the game algorithm though you won't be able to predict precisely enough to do so because of the many combinatories that are possible.

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Yeah I know but there are things that happened to me that science cannot explain due to that they do not believe it can happen. I appear to fit into a catorgory that no one seems to be willing to scientifically study. My way of thinking is not totally against science in fact I love forensics which is not the kind of science we are talking about here. But there always have been things that can be scientifically explained and some that cannot be scientifically explained. Example, take a pair of dowsing rods and place them into someone hands. The dowsing rods beging to swing around but the person is not moving his or her hands. Can you scientifically explain how these rods swing for about 30 minutes without the person moving their hands? If you saw it with your own eyes would you believe what you are seeing or accuse the person of some trickery? I am a honest person and would never deceive anyone like that and my dowsing rod swing real well without my help. I do not expect anyone to believe me because that is something you have to experience for yourself.

You might like to read "Alien Encounters" by Chuck Missler and Mark Eastman. I never thought I'd ever believe in Ghosts or Aliens... but that book has changed my thinking alright. It's freaky enough in broad daylight. I'd advise anyone NOT to read it at night. I was so scared when I did.

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Originally Posted by Ancestor

Pendragon would please tell where I can look into I Ching principals. I wonder if that is part of Qigong or QI healing principals? I would love to learn to improve my whole being better due to I am not doing a good job at the moment. Stress is way too unhealthy for anyone.

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I studied I Ching from books I checked out from my local library. Any good library should either have them, or be able to get them on intra-library loan for you. The method I'm using at the moment is called "Heart Smiling", using a focus of Chi flow and meditation, modified to suit my personal tastes and religious beliefs. That is the beauty of I Ching as taught by my doctor, she can tailor it to a person so well. I used to be able to block pain, nearly stop my heart, etc., but I have trouble concentrating now. This version requires little concentration, as the meditation takes the form of positive statements said aloud. The philosopher Jung was into I Ching, if I recall correctly. My sixth sense is tied to my aura very strongly, but I understand what you mean by "empathy". Not that I see ghosts as a usual thing, I can usually explain what is going on. It's the 10% I can't explain that lead me to start this topic. :)

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Originally Posted by underground

yes, i do believe that ghosts exist, but i really wonder what makes people always assume that they're the souls of dead people. maybe ghosts are, you know, just from a whole different world. maybe those who look like people we know are the doppel gangers from another dimension. :p


maybe i've read too much sci-fi.

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Interesting. Are you familiar with the ghostly phenomenon of the "doppleganger" or "fetch"? This is when a person is haunted by a replica of themselves. It is said to be fatal to see your own "fetch". As you might imagine from the name, this legend comes to us via the German people. I've read several cases that seem to be well documented. Parallel Universe lap-over? Works for me. Oh, and you can never read too much Sci-Fi... :) :alien: :alien: :alien: :alien:

I've had some odd personal experiences with ghosts and/or spirits.
About five separate ocasions, I've seen an entity that cold be a ghost or spirit.
Three times, I saw a curly-haired white man, heavy set, in rural clothes. Once,he was spotted sitting in a lounge chair in my den, and twice in the bedrooms. He vanished quickly, and never acknowledged my presence.
At least twice, I've seen a pillar of smoky material in my house that can't be explained away.
Add to the list, the sound of music boxes, when there are nonne in the house.
Also, the scent of men's cologne has been smelled, but no one in the house wears any.
Lights have switched on and off by themselves.
PErsonal items have disappeared, and then reappeared in odd places.

Cool experience's BigDaddy and has anyone else in your house seen this guy? Just curious do not have to answery if you do not want to. I feel that seeing is believing. :nod:

Thank you Pendragon for answering my question and I will look into it. I am a firm believer that meditation does work and I do know that having a healthy Chi does help us. I do appreciate you answering so again thank you. ;)

So many thoughts and opinions. Since I believe that we were always meant to have access to this world of material substance and that where God and His angels and such dwell I have never had a problem since baby hood accepting that my being extremely sensitive to the unseen was as it should be. Okay you can laugh til you cry but when I was nine i sat on the edge of the bed and i was determined i guess to sit there until i saw a vision of God.(when i was just three or so my father said i put on my coat and headed for the door declaring i was going to find God.)Well i sat and sat and then suddenly the room lit up which was hard because it was summer and the room was already bright because it was not twilight yet. at any rate there stood this magnificent well to me angelic being and i was so disappointed because i knew he was not God. He simply bade me get under the covers told me that God was with me and the next thing i know it was morning and i was still lying under the covers.This sort of thing has happened all througout my life. I have no idea why.
The two strangest were when one october night when my children were small i went outside to go down the street to get chocolate bars for a snack ( i know not healthy)
I distinctly heard a voice ask me how much i loved my God. I said with out thinking very much. "to the death?" i heard and suddenly felt scared. i went into the store and got the stuff and as i was heading home i felt overwhelmingly freaked out. i looked down the street and there sat what i at first thought was a guard dog but it was outside the gate of the auto wreckers. Then i noticed it was sitting but was about six feet high and was glowing electric blue and had glowing yellow eyes that looked somehow human. It started toward me and sounded like a train.I started screaming like an insane person and began to run across the crowded highway. people were staring at me and swerving and trying to see what i saw. i got to the other side and told it to go in Jesus' Name and it vanished. I went into the house with the chocolate bars and sat like a statue for about an hour trying to calm down.

The second( i hope i am not boring you) was a reoccurant strange thing at my place of work which was a night attendant at a senior's residence. as there was always only one person working each night caring for over seventy sick and dying people it was exhausting. and i had to do room check, go up all the floors and check to see there was no smoke or whatever. i always heard uneartlhly moanings and screams or deep hideous voices coming from some of the rooms that i knew sickly spindly weak people tucked into their beds were.
then i read from another attendant that she was thinking of quitting (we had to write all happenings in the book for the next shift.) because of the same things. she was terrified. we couldn't lose her, it was such a hard job no one was able to do but a few of us so in desperation i told her to do what i had done to tell whatever those things were to leave in the Name of Jesus. She wrote in the book a couple of days later that she had done so and the noises and slamming doors had ceased instantly.
I don't pretend to understand all this stuff but it happens. constantly.

"And the demons screamed and cried out and said "Son of Man what have we to do with you ?" And He ordered them to be quiet and come out of him." holy Bible.

pendragon,

what is I Ching in the first place and how does it work. It is just a way of coping like some people do under doctor's care to diminish pain by what one thinks or says out loud or is it something else.

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Originally Posted by Pendragon

I studied I Ching from books I checked out from my local library. Any good library should either have them, or be able to get them on intra-library loan for you. The method I'm using at the moment is called "Heart Smiling", using a focus of Chi flow and meditation, modified to suit my personal tastes and religious beliefs. That is the beauty of I Ching as taught by my doctor, she can tailor it to a person so well. I used to be able to block pain, nearly stop my heart, etc., but I have trouble concentrating now. This version requires little concentration, as the meditation takes the form of positive statements said aloud. The philosopher Jung was into I Ching, if I recall correctly. My sixth sense is tied to my aura very strongly, but I understand what you mean by "empathy". Not that I see ghosts as a usual thing, I can usually explain what is going on. It's the 10% I can't explain that lead me to start this topic. :)

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Originally Posted by rachel

pendragon, what is I Ching in the first place and how does it work. It is just a way of coping like some people do under doctor's care to diminish pain by what one thinks or says out loud or is it something else.

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I know you addressed this to Pendragon but I think I can answer it too. Asian practices of deal with Chi which is the energy within the human body. I Ching is a principal that allows one to balance the Chi within their own body to help the body heal thyself. A meditation form Pendragon describes in the above quote is used to help him is tailored to him. Aura is his spiritual energy which is your Chi. Often doing Tai Chi can also give you same results but I find that Reiki healing also helps me too. Otherwords use spiritual healing techniques along with whatever faith you are can help you stay healthy. I do need to get back into the practice of doing my Tai Chi again. Your mind is a power healing tool that most people do not use. But if you have negative thoughts then your mind can also make you sick. It depends on how one thinks of themselves and what they find works to keep them a healthy person. Sorry to have butted in and if Pendragon feels I did not interpret correctly I hope he will set me straight. I would rather be straight then to keep making mistakes. ;)