The right to bear arms

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Originally Posted by prendrelemick

Waking up this thread because of the Ex LA cop, who lost his job and because he feels a sense of injustice, is shooting his former collegues. It is a situation that sums up the whole deadly combination of factors, that from here seems peculiar to America. Firstly, there is a confidence in violence that runs through society from the Government down-a belief that violence is the answer. You can put things right with violence. So the ex cop has a grievance and resorts to violence.

Then the is the cult of the individual over and above society. The cop feels he has a right to declare war on the LA police. It's his call as a free and independent citizen. and if people get killed, it's unfortunate but there are always casualties in war.

And finally, there is all that freely available weaponry, enableing him to persue his war easily and effectively.

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I agree with everything said here. Also saw that the police shot two women because they thought they were the shooter... seems like a difficult mistake to make, considering the shooter is a large man...

And your point is?

It's not going to change, predrelmick. There was a story on the news last night that a local gun manufacturer cannot keep up with the current demand for guns. My son said that would go on for at least two years.

Here's something else:



The article is titled "How many people have been killed by guns since Newtown?"


http://www.slate.com/articles/news_a..._shooting.html

I think that Muslim women should have the right to bare arms, even in Iran.

Hindu women too, particularly in Dehli.

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Originally Posted by prendrelemick

Waking up this thread because of the Ex LA cop, who lost his job and because he feels a sense of injustice, is shooting his former collegues. It is a situation that sums up the whole deadly combination of factors, that from here seems peculiar to America. Firstly, there is a confidence in violence that runs through society from the Government down-a belief that violence is the answer. You can put things right with violence. So the ex cop has a grievance and resorts to violence.

Then the is the cult of the individual over and above society. The cop feels he has a right to declare war on the LA police. It's his call as a free and independent citizen. and if people get killed, it's unfortunate but there are always casualties in war.

And finally, there is all that freely available weaponry, enableing him to persue his war easily and effectively.

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I found this clip from Full Metal Jacket. It may have applicability with respect to our present shooter out in California.

http://youtu.be/a5IWK9sRYTs

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Originally Posted by Ecurb

I think that Muslim women should have the right to bare arms, even in Iran.

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Originally Posted by Sancho

Hindu women too, particularly in Dehli.

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It does seem extremely desirable to arm the weak. That's how it starts, I bet our rogue ex policeman sees himself as a victim.

A far better idea is to have a strong rule of law based on equality and justice.

Hey, I'm a woman. I guess I need a gun.

Makes me think of a scene in some movie where they all end up with their guns pointed at each others head. Hehe.

I support women's rights to bare arms, and bare faces, too (in case anyone didn't get my earlier homophone). Here in Oregon, the right to bare not only arms, but the entire body is considered a First Amendment right, not a Second.

Doh, I completely missed that !

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Originally Posted by Ecurb

I support women's rights to bare arms, and bare faces, too (in case anyone didn't get my earlier homophone). Here in Oregon, the right to bare not only arms, but the entire body is considered a First Amendment right, not a Second.

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Haha!

Good won.

It was only a matter of time for the classic “bearing of arms” jokes to surface.

Seriously though, I find it strange that we should be discussing the rights to any part of a bear, perhaps their hide for a rug begins to make some sense, but their arms…that’s stretching it.

http://imageshack.us/a/img18/1383/xbrm3a.jpg

After few thoughts I think yes one can have the right to bear whatever they wish including arms but what what they do not have to is the right to pull the trigger.

I see the Former Police Officer Dorner situation has been brought to a suitably violent end. Little old ladies in pick-up trucks may safely drive once more.

I find it so typical that there is a reopening of the investigation into the greviences of the shooter. Really?!?!

I always have to smirk at 'ad hoc' reactionary government decisions. Was the investigation re-opened because he killed people and there was a Media Frenzy? Yes:frown5:. Now a bunch of money and resources have to be re spent all over again. Typical.

Eh, give it a few days and we will be on to something else more sensational.