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That's it, Mick - I think it's something to do with using an adverse wind to move forward. My old seafaring chap explained it to me and Patrick O'Brian has Jack Aubrey use it from time to time but it's all a bit to complicated for a sworn landlubber like me. How did I ever come to marry a sailor??Quote:
Originally Posted by prendrelemick
And yes, 9 and 16 are correct.
Just two to go - think Detective stories (possibly) and banquets......
18. My lords, ladies and Gentleman.
...an open and shut case
I've never come across 1, 5, and 14 before. What are they from?
1. Is a nautical term. Ships from Bristol were supposed to be more polished, looked after and properly run.
5. Is a way of saying everybody. No idea where it comes from.
14. Is a well known nursery rhyme, based on the different sounds of church bells in London.
Oranges and lemons, say the bells of St Clements,
You owe me five farthings, say the bells of St Martins,
When will you pay me, say the bells of Old Bailey,
When I grow rich, say the bells of Shoreditch,
When will that be, say the bells of Stepney,
I do not know, say the great bells of Bow,
Here comes a candle to light you to bed,
And here comes the axeman to chop off your head,
Chop! Chop! off goes the next man's head.
There was a game we used to play with it as well.
Ahh memories...
Well done, folks - down to you now, Mick, I think.....
A bit more on 'Bristol fashion', suggesting a practical reason for ships in Bristol Harbour having to be well-organised.
Yes, the difference in the clothes she wears--down to Mick...
Thanks for the education, prendrelemick!
You have a 6 inch tall cylindrical glass with some water in it. You know the glass holds 12 fl oz when full. When you tilt the glass untill the water is just at the brim on one side, it is 4 inches below the rim on the other. How much water is in the glass.?
I haven't taken a math class in many decades. However, 8 oz. seems the obvious answer. In other words, 1/3 of the original in the 2" of cylinder at the bottom (4 oz.) + 1/2 of the remaining 2/3 volume (another 4 oz.).Quote:
Originally Posted by prendrelemick
Well, that was treated with the contempt it deserved. Probably the fastest ever correct answer.
Your turn to post something Ecurb.
How many times must a man look up before he can see the sky?
(OK, that one's too easy. I'll come up with something else.)
Here's one from Lewis Carrol:
1) There are no pencils of mine in this box.
2) No sugar-plumbs of mine are cigars.
3) The whole of my property, that is not in the box, consists of cigars
Assuming these three axioms, what can we conclude?
If he owns any sugar-plums, they're in the box. He owns no pencils. The fetishistically narrow investment in cigars is unlikely to turn out well, even if he resists smoking his assets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecurb
You only own cigars. And things that aren't pencils, but are in that box (which belongs to someone else).
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Originally Posted by billl
Notice "sugar-plumbs" not "plums" which has leadey and therefore pencily conotations. (Plumbagoi is a name for the graphite used in pencils)
I think we can assume that he has some sugar-plumbs from the second statement, and (a weaker assumption) that there are some pencis in the box from the first statement. So we have to assume the sugar plumbs are in the box from the third. BUT because of the wording these are assumpions only
To sum up:
It is likely that the box contains someone else's pencils and his own sugar-plumbs. He also owns more than one cigar.
According to Charles Dodgson (aka Lewis Carroll), the answer is: "No pencils of mine are sugar-plumbs."
Here's an explanation:
http://www.mathorama.com/geom/lessons/puzzle2.html
We have gone to where logic slips the surly bonds of reality, where I struggle to follow.
I wonder what Sherlock Holmes would've come up with?
OK, I'll grant that was a hard one. Here's another Lewis Carroll puzzle that's a little easier:
No kitten that loves fish is unteachable.
No kitten without a tail will play with a gorilla.
Kittens with whiskers always love fish.
No teachable kitten has green eyes.
No kittens have tails unless they have whiskers.
What can we conclude?
Is the answer short and snappy, or lengthy? One short answer would maybe be:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecurb
No green-eyed kittens will play with gorillas.
For some reason, Carrol says, "Only a kitten without green eyes will play with a gorilla."
Your answer seems the same to me, billl.
Yeah, I had to choose how to express it. I thought I might have gotten it, but wasn't sure if maybe there was something further he might've been looking for. To know what's being looked for, one has to sort of see how it's set up to lead to one conclusion that's most "difficult" or "indirect".
The green eyes and the gorilla-playing were the only things that didn't get mentioned twice, so that's what we have to look at (have to connect, apparently).
Here's the work, because it's fun and satisfying to lay it out. (Nothing about my pride or ego or anything like that.)
IF THEN STATEMENTSQuote:
No kitten that loves fish is unteachable.
No kitten without a tail will play with a gorilla.
Kittens with whiskers always love fish.
No teachable kitten has green eyes.
No kittens have tails unless they have whiskers.
If a kitten plays with a gorilla, it will have a tail. (rewording sentence 2)
AND
If a kitten has a tail, it will have whiskers. (5)
AND
If a kitten has whiskers, it will love fish. (3)
AND
If a kitten loves fish, it is teachable. (1)
AND
If a kitten is teachable, it won't have green eyes. (4)
Using deduction (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syllogism), we get:
If a kitten plays with a gorilla, it won't have green eyes.
Here's an old Hindu puzzle (I originally found it in a Raymond Smullyan book):
Quote:
Out of a swarm of bees one-fifth part settled on a Kadamba blossom; one-third on a Silindhra flower; three times the difference of those numbers flew to the bloom of a Kutaja. One bee, which remained, hovered about in the air. Tell me, charming woman, the number of bees
46?
just a guess
sorry, jajdude...
15??? (The extra ?s are there not only because I'm not sure of the answer but because the system [They] won't let me post 15? because it's less than five letters/figures.)
Fifteen is correct! Kasie rules (I got the same answer before looking at Kasie's though).
Good going, guys.
I have a busy day ahead, so I ask your indulgence while I think of a new puzzle, folks. Also I need more time to recover from those Lewis Carroll teasers - nothing so tortuous will be coming from me, I promise!
Well done, kasie.
OK - I've thunk - two of these actually appeared in the crossword and Codeword I did yesterday after lunch.
CROSSWORD CLUES
1 a fish (3)
2 You're being watched! (abbrev) (4)
3 South American tylopod (5)
4 one of these is very short (abbrev) (2)
5 strange and disturbing (5)
6 give out moisture (4)
7 always poetic (3)
8 with reference to the Pope (abbrev) (2)
9 very quietly (mus) (2)
10 leading African mammal (8)
11 sedimentary rock (6)
12 given to an exceptionally brave soldier (abbrev) (2)
13 a very small volume (abbrev) (2)
14 study of birds' eggs (6)
15 for and on behalf of (abbrev) (2)
16 critical day of action (1,3)
17 a very modern address (abbrev) (3)
18 black Chinese tea (6)
19 Manx races (abbrev) (2)
20 lots and lots (6)
So, what's the pattern? Once you have a couple, you'll see it. (And just to be kind, I didn't include words that cropped up in my Welsh lesson yesterday, such as 'Where do you live?' followed by 'Where's that?)
They're all two-syllable rhymes?
(Having said that, the tylopod doesn't quite rhyme in my accent. And, wait, the study of bird's eggs is oology. Okay, forget that...)
1 a fish (3)
2 You're being watched! (abbrev) (4)
3 South American tylopod (5) llama
4 one of these is very short (abbrev) (2)
5 strange and disturbing (5) creepy
6 give out moisture (4)
7 always poetic (3)
8 with reference to the Pope (abbrev) (2)
9 very quietly (mus) (2) pp
10 leading African mammal (8)
11 sedimentary rock (6)
12 given to an exceptionally brave soldier (abbrev) (2) vc
13 a very small volume (abbrev) (2) cc
14 study of birds' eggs (6)
15 for and on behalf of (abbrev) (2) pp
16 critical day of action (1,3)
17 a very modern address (abbrev) (3)
18 black Chinese tea (6)
19 Manx races (abbrev) (2) tt
20 lots and lots (6)
The fish may be a dab or an eel or a cod, I suspect that once we get the pattern we'll know which. Hmm COD is also an abbrev..
Unfortunately Elephant isn't.
Mark - yes to 3, 9, 9, 15, 19; no to 5 and 12 (not what I had in mind anyway.) and you should have gone with the birds' eggs idea.... And good idea about the two syllable rhymes -a future puzzle there, I think.
Mick - yes, it's one of those. :smile5: And beware of 'leading' - these are crossword clues.
The abbreviations are a bit of a cheat, really, they are there to bulk up the quiz but they are all in the dictionary, the Chambers 21st Century dictionary, anyway.
I suspect 2 is cctv, and 6 is seep. Is 7 e'er and 16 D-Day?
Does this have something to do with the way that the answers can be 'fitted together'?
Mark - yes to 2, 7 and 16; not what I had in mind for 6 but I suspect you are getting close to working out the link.
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Originally Posted by kasie
Oh no I'm not.
There are several six-letter sedimentary rocks, but for no reason at all I've decided it's gypsum.
(Except it's going to be oolite, isn't it?)
:D (kasie does her Cheshire Cat impression.)
Not gypsum but you're nearly there, Mark......
Ok, the link is now obvious, so I know its eel and ooze, and perhaps gazelle or baboon, but Mark is the only winner here.
Mick - yes to eel and ooze, but no to gazelle or baboon - you haven't quite got the link yet.