I think the idea here is not to prove the other side wrong, but to discuss the views.... so take it easy. :D
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I think the idea here is not to prove the other side wrong, but to discuss the views.... so take it easy. :D
Nobody's more calm about this than I Adel, but I analyze every post for a counter viewpoint, so that this learning experience keeps on going. :)
What is really discouraging are those thousands of fanatic people (included the Jews) crawling around in Köln singing hypnotic lullabies.
I hope this does not offend you or anything but may I ask what that has to do with Evolution vs Creation? Could be please explain futher?Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxos
I've rarely seen Maxos on topic, but if he manages to show how this is on topic, he'll have my attention for once, heh.
(seems like this might have been a good reply in the "hearing voices of god" thread, maybe, but not here of all places)
I have made a mistake, the post to which I was replying was before.
That is okay I was curious and thought I had missed that topic on this forum. I do hope that I was not rude towards you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maxos
I want to ask some questions plz. Why the animals are not like us? Why we are the only creatures that passed through evolution (if it exists)? And why this process has stoped since a long time ago?
Good question there adilyoussef. I believe that animals do evolve like us because in order to survive us humans who keep taking over their homes they have to choice but to adapt and evolve. But some people do not think animals should have any rights and are just for food. I do not feel that way anything that has a pulse and breaths is alive like I am and should be respected. Not sure it has stopped maybe slowed or we just do not see it going on now. I wish I could give a better answer but I cannot, sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by adilyoussef
Animals are very much like us. Many of them feel emotions, show goals and interests in varying things, and are fairly intelligent. All creatures have passed through evolution, we are no different. It hasn't stopped either, we're always evolving. It just takes hundreds of thousands of years to see any significant difference at times, but because we've only had (what we call at least) civilization over the past 8,000 years we tend to base everything off of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by adilyoussef
This may sound a tad off it, but this is my sincere belief. I believe in both creationism and evolution, just not any of the theories out there now. I believe God created the Earth and every living thing. But I do not belive that the animals or even mankind is still the same as when God formed them from the dust of the Earth. Too much has gone on, and they have had to adapt. Thus they have changed over the years, or evolved, if you choose to use that word. But not ape to man. Sorry, I don't buy that at all. When God made man "in His image" he made a "spirit" for that is what God is. Read the Bible. In the next chapter, he gives that spirit a body, formed out of the dust of the Earth. "Male and female created He them, and called their name Adam in the day of their creation." Now he seperates the spirits, giving Eve her own body. It's all there. READ. But time writes its lines on every face. Things change. They evolve. Sermon over. Dragon out.
I believe the passion over the subject is a greater wonder than the subject itself and promise not to be offended by anyone who believes an ancient colony of apes were their link to existence or by those that think God made two people out of dirt.Untill an evolutionist has a spiritual epiphany they will choose the idea their tail fell off,they stood up.and became genius.For those I would recommend,G.K. Chesterton,"The Everlasting Man".and C.S. Lewis."The Abolition of Man." For those that think a Supreme being created two people from dirt I would recommend the same two books.
That's an odd way to remain neutral Okmit, but I can respect you at least trying to add in new book knowledge to the arena.
I apologize for not being clearer on my personal stance.I am a right wing conservative Republican by political labeling,and practice the Byzantine (Eastern Rite) Catholic Christian dogma.A creationist,pro-lifer,and anything but neutral on any subject.
I do hope you read the books...Okmit
Hey, neat, you're like my polar opposite. HI! heh, was just noticing you managed to give a good suggestion to each side without stating any side, so it appeared pretty neutral. I plan on picking up the Lewis book soon, as I've heard good things on occasion about em.
Though I might add to your original post: We didn't "lose" our tails. They slowly went away, sure, but we still have tailbones and people are still born with tails (sourced). Also, as it has been mentioned earlier, we didn't evolve specifically from some "ancient colony of apes" but a common ancestor of the apes and monkeys (as well as homo sapiens; 3 branched off it). And considering we share 98% of our DNA with chimps, and they create art, have plenty of emotions, tight nit communities, etc, I wouldn't go saying we grew up to be geniuses by any stretch of the word. Intelligence is different for every species, but we certainly aren't any smarter. Of course, we'd like to think so..