Cold Ale - The Blokes' Thread!

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Originally Posted by JBI

The question though, was not what is beauty, but whether you value beauty or not. For someone who has some weird fetish or whatever, if that fetish is not satisfied, perhaps they will not find the person beautiful, and then choose them over the girl who doesn't have a huge wart, but happens to be the nicest person in the world.

I doubt my aesthetic matches many people, but that makes no difference. The truth is, one needs to sleep with/beside said person over a period of time - if one is engaging in a relationship, perhaps over a large period of time - if one does not find them physically attractive, it could have dire consequences on their relationship. Try having sex with someone you find repulsive - then try doing that regularly.

But of course, the binary goes both ways. Try having dinner with someone you cannot stand, or waking up beside them. Not much fun. One needs to ask themselves what they truly want, and go for it. It is all a matter of preference, but lets be honest, there are two halves of the body, and both need to be satisfied to some extent.

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...and that is why I said that if it is important...then they shouldn't ignore it...

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Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC

But beauty is in the eye of the beholder. What is hideous to one is not so hideous to another. If physical beauty is important to the individual, then that individual shouldn't ignore that fact.

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Absolutely true.

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Originally Posted by JBI

The question though, was not what is beauty, but whether you value beauty or not.

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Haha! We've been here before.

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Originally Posted by JBI

Try having sex with someone you find repulsive - then try doing that regularly.

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In the early stages, I think that applies, but the old expression "love is blind" is often true and attraction to the person can outweigh physical beauty/repulsiveness.

I would say personality. But then in the body, the main thing I find attractive is good health...

But personality is definitely... trumping... for instance, physicality can only be so much, but the personality can be so much more. Of course I know some people here don't believe in the soul (*chuckles*...heh, heh :D), and I am using the term personality, but for me also it is the soul which is more attractive.

Even the Bible mentions body, soul, and spirit, which implies that there is something else on the physical side of it. The physical body, the physical life force/or personality, and the eternal soul. So if you don't believe in the eternal soul, there's still a personality...

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Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC

Even the Bible mentions body, soul, and spirit, which implies that there is something else on the physical side of it. The physical body, the physical life force/or personality, and the eternal soul. So if you don't believe in the eternal soul, there's still a personality...

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Oh I know that. But I was saying, personality is not all of it for me, as the soul is more than just personality.

re beauty

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Originally Posted by The Atheist

In the early stages, I think that applies.

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Unless you've had a few too many drinks, then beauty is directly proportionate to how much alcohol you've consumed, and whether she keeps laughing at your jokes. :D

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Originally Posted by NikolaiI

Oh I know that. But I was saying, personality is not all of it for me, as the soul is more than just personality.

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My wife and I have learned a lot about how much we don't know about the human body when our daughter was born with Down Syndrome...not that you can't learn the same from any child, but I think that we just opened our eyes a little wider. Beauty, personality, intelligence, and so on...it all became redefined. I understand what you are saying...and I couldn't agree more, but I just wasn't very good at explaining that in the last post.

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Originally Posted by Silas Thorne

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Unless you've had a few too many drinks, then beauty is directly proportionate to how much alcohol you've consumed, and whether she keeps laughing at your jokes. :D

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Is the amount of alcohol that SHE has consumed directly proportionate to how much she laughs at your jokes?

Ah yes, that too! :D

Personality all the way - I made the mistake of dating a good-looking girl simply because she was good-looking; turned out to be a right psycho...

That said, if a woman can have a lovely personality and a face to match it, then so much the better!

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Originally Posted by Silas Thorne

Unless you've had a few too many drinks, then beauty is directly proportionate to how much alcohol you've consumed, and whether she keeps laughing at your jokes. :D

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Bit like blokes in the outback in Australia. After six months, even the sheep start to look good.

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Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC

Is the amount of alcohol that SHE has consumed directly proportionate to how much she laughs at your jokes?

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Hell yeah! How many relationships would remain unconsummated without the lubrication of alcohol is approaching a subset of infinity.

While we're on the subject of women, another thing has struck me that might be relevant to the discussion i.e. Do you get turned off by a female's accent. I guess we have all seen the gorgeous looking girl who is a complete turn off as soon as she opens her mouth. Like Eliza Doolittle in Pygmalian for example or some of those classy American blondes who speak with a Bronx accent. Of course, one doesn't tend to notice it in women from non- English speaking countries unless one is very familiar with the spoken language. I guess that the same applies for women with regard to men's accents but I don't know to what degree.

One that would shut me down in a heartbeat...Fran Drescher who played The Nanny. I believe that is the Bronx accent that you are speaking of...it's a tell tale sign of the level of class. (for me, that is)

*takes down notes in clipboard*

Ok, first up: looks vs personality depends on how I see the relationship going. If I think it is going to be a more long term thing personality. If it may end up some drunken fumbling looks generally win - I'm a pig but an honest one


Accents: the worst have to be the scouse & cockney accents