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Well, now im further into the book, and its starting to SLIGHTLY get better to the fact that i can start to understand it a little more than my last post. I still cant judge this book so i guess I'll have 2 continue on.. Its definitely showing that Orwell is making many different predictions, and most of them are DEAD ON. Theres alot of those "ringing the bell" moments when Orwell is dead on and this book was written in 1948! Well, Im out TTYL
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Brave New World is like 150 pages. Just push through it, man.Quote:
Originally Posted by rabid reader
At first, when i started reading this book, i thought it was going to be boring. But now i have gotten into the book. Its more interesting. I guess you just have to give it time. So anyhow, I think its a good book so far because its about the government and how things are kinda reflecting now. Like in 1984 they were under complete survellence pretty much, and thats whats happening to us now, there are cameras and survellance everywhere you turn.
Well in the beginning i thought it was boring too but i have got to read it more and i actually think it is a good book so far. But i still have more to read and i think it will get better.:wave:
I actually really liked Brave New World! I recall reading it on a train, whilst listening to Procol Harum on my mp3... then, as the main characters are hovering above the sea, a scene that is so beautifully described, the girl, a product of her time perhaps, turns on the radio, because the silence is too quiet, and to compensate the music creates a barrier between the two.
I remember looking up, and noticing that all ten of the people in that train cart where wearing headphones. I remember discreetly switching of my music, and trying to relate to the world around me...
I really liked both these books
Quite frankly, I think you were reading the wrong 1984, Jack, because I cannot understand how anyone with half a brain could not have even been slightly interested in the content of theis book. It's theories and portayal of totalitarianism are spot on and interesting, and even if that doesn't interest you, the age-old story of two people trying desperatly to overcome unbeatable odds is one which should arouse some kind of empathy in you. I suggest reading it again, and this time really concentrate on what is being said, you may find out what we're all talking about here.
I do find it remotely interesting, I am glad that I do understand it, and I think that's why people don't like it because they don't or don't take the time to understand it. Many people in my English class say they don't like it, but I think it's because they don't understand it, or are too lazy to try to understand, and they just complain to me ,and I HATE it, it's like " hello take three seconds and read it and don't come crying to me, because I do understand it, and if you don't this far into the book that's not my problem. ( WOW sorry guys didn't mean to go off on a rant, I guess I'm just stressed today)
haha. it definately takes more than 3 seconds to read seattlegrace90. it takes times to just sit down and read it and comprehend things and analysize this book. But your right, why complain, if they dont read it, or take the time to do so.
I'm with those who think 1984 is one of the best books they've read, it's a harrowing experience!
this book was boring to me to as it delt with a lot of political issues...proles, big brother, world war 1 kind of things!! im just a teenager i wasnt interested at all...but i did learn a few things about society back in the day that i did not know before i read the book!! maybe when im older i will chose to read the book again and will find understanding in it....right now i lost interest.
FYI it's World War two kind of stuff, just thought I'd let you know:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Starstruck1445
I understand what your saying about 1984 the book was very difficult for me to comprehend. I understood the book when someone was explaining it to me but when i started reading it again i got completely lost but alltogether it was an ok book. :brow:
i remember choosing to read 1984 for leisure after having done a practice paper on dystopian literature for english language. i loved every moment of it and found it made me become more politically minded (which helped in sociology). i havent read it in many years but i have already decided to write my dissertation on dystopian literature with much focus on 1984 and other major texts such as Brave New World and The Handmaids Tale.
the only slight dislike i can have with these books are the endings, i find myself mentally willing the characters on to smash the system and overthrow the government and am always immensely upset that they fail. Though i understand that these failures are necessary to highlight the horror of an unbreakable all-controlling future government.
read animal farm, its slightly easier to read but says about the same thing
the reason i hate this book was becuase when they were released i thought theyd have sex on the spot. because now they were allowed. they picked betrayel over love. how come they couldnt forget there diffrences. it was like their love ment nothing. :flare: i whanted a good ending i guess my hopes were to high.
Their love did meant something, but Party had to win; killing every piece of good and humanity in society.Quote:
Originally Posted by braniac2read
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:flare: im pissed off. how come after julia and winston got released they wouldnt fall in love again. Nobody would care anymore. How come they couldnt just forget their problems? it was like their love ment nothing anymore.:flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare:
i guess your right. But when winston prooved o'brien wrong about still lovining julia i thought he wouldnt betray her.Falling in love is the humen condition you cant stop that because thats what every body starts to feel. I dont whant the party to win. but if the party let them fall in love how come they couldnt think and remeber the seacret meetings and stuff? and forget who betrayed who it wasnt their falt it was o' brien and the thought police.Quote:
Originally Posted by bazarov
I hear persistent long term torture is not very good one's libido!Quote:
Originally Posted by braniac2read
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Its not that. its that the ending was 2 painfull...........:(Quote:
Originally Posted by Scheherazade
i read 1984 which i think was preety interesting book.. i love de way the situation tht's set in story but i think it takes preety long when it gets to conclusion n some chapters r preety much bouring n concludes nothing basically and i hate the end of story...ne ways it was fun reading:lol:
WHAT ARE YOU MAD!!!
1984 is one of the greatest books, its their to make you ask yourself is soceity to Big Brotherly? Its their as a written line of when a soceity has gone to far! IF anyone hates this book i seriously beleive you dont have a brain
It's the best book i've read
your both wrong. this book made you feel something and it also made you question.orwell is inspiring and this book is the best book i have ever read.......:flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare: :flare:Quote:
Originally Posted by kren
what are you talking about. it may have been boring to you but any book can be boring. this book was inspiration and people around the world have questions and comments about it the way they think and feel and the questtions they have about it. if this was writen along time ago then why are people still writing about the book thats how great it is this book is ONE OF THE GREATEST BOOKS I HAVE EVER READ. THAT GOES FOR THE MAN WHOS 64 im only 13 and i didnt find it boring....;) ;Quote:
Originally Posted by Contradict
i loved this book it wanst boring.it made me think of the humen condition. and it was one of orwells best written books.
I read the book like two months ago, and I didn't hate it..but can't say I'm a big fan of it either. I love 'Animal Farm" more, even though it was for studying..while 1984 was for pleasure. I can honestly say that our world now is nowhere near perfection, but the novel's world was WAY too gloomy. I understand that the fact that the book was written in the 1940s and people are still talking and discussing it till now, it makes the novel good, but not the best novel ever. I'm used to boring books, so it doesn't matter, sure thing that the author never found it boring, and so it must have had something in it, something that someone thought was worth reading, and that's my philosophy in reading any book. For this novel, I believe that the idea of the "Big Brother" was the catchy part, though it was presented in a rather dull form and plot, it still is an everlasting idea, will last as long as there's politics and politicians...
So bottom line is, 1984 wasn't as boring as other books I've read, at least it had a good idea included, I just wished it was written in a better way, that's all...in an "Animal Farm" kind of style, if you know what I mean.
I really enjoyed 1984 and Brave New World. They both opened my eyes to see what was actually going on around me. Both stories are to the extreme but not total lies.
A book ,like music, is a personal journey for first the Author then the reader. I recall this as being the first book that shocked me. I first read it some 20 years ago I was 13 (ish) and it was the first book that shattered my naivety. I fevently hoped that the revolution was going to happen and the good guys would win through. A natural enough expectation after being brought up on a diet of hollywood "it'll be alright in the end guys" culture. It took me to the depths of despair as Winston was captured and tortured and I became ever more anxious as the remaining pages became fewer and fewer. Unable to relinquish my conviction that the revolution was coming I began to wander how the author was going to pull this one out of his *** in so few pages..... then it happened, Winston started crying in the Chestnut tree cafe and it simply ended. It was the first piece of serious literature I had ever written an it left me simply stunned. I have just finished watching the film adaptation and it has brought it all back. Not fun, not particularly enjoyable but undeniably brilliant.
Jack, could you possibly be more specific about 1984?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
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I would like to notice that there are many so-called "mechanical" and inharmonious elements in the book. And it is impossible otherwise for the books of the fantastic genre. A writer can not live in the fabulous world about which he writes, and empathize all emotions about what he writes.
Therefore "1984" has so many discrepancies. Nevertheless "1984" is my the best book I have ever read.
You should learn history of that period - the thirties, and compare it with other dictators. Only 0,5 percent of the USSR population of that time, so-called enemies of the people, were purged.Quote:
Originally Posted by caspian
woow some of you guys really exited me to bye that book
1984 is a really good book and lots of stuff from it is in today's culture! just because you (person who started this) didn't like it doesn't make it a bad book.
Even before reading this book, I was fascinated by the title "1984." It grabbed attention to me right away. Plus when i finished reading it, i found it very true. I think this book was one of the best convincing books ive ever read.
In my opinion this book was pretty good. the part i like the best was the part about goldsteins book. that was pretty cool.
Edit: Wrong thread...
I'm on the other side of this argument; I am finding this book to be very interesting, the way Orwell can write satires on society without knowing what the future will hold seems to be genius. Though I don't enjoy the way the book reads, it seems to skip around a lot and reads very flatly. Compare this book to today's society and you may see the true genius of Orwell's writing.
Good stuff!Quote:
Originally Posted by Enjoi.
Having lived in most of the decades since it was published, it's noticeable that every generation has its own take on Orwell. During the Cold War, lots of kids saw NATO/USSR/China as the three powers.
It is a flat read; all of Orwell's stuff is the same. He sure wasn't a happy man.