machismo

We Westerners do not respect machismo anymore because we play video games instead of sports and we have high tech weapons systems which can blow a country to smithereens without risking many of our own lives. If we still lived in a time when to go on a mission overseas required immense man-power it would be different. Machismo is still somewhat alive in certain areas and communities, but overall we have many of us been thoroughly emasculated.

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Originally Posted by Revolte

Or send him over to my house, the end is the same.

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Haha. Same here. I get people talking heinous allegations and smack all the time on the internet and behind my back but they never show up to my house. People realize they're dealing with a real man and they cower, the lies and rumors go underground, way underground. I doubt you were even referring to this, but that's what your statement made me think.

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Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandis

I'd probably go the **** my pants and cry route.

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You don't give yourself enough credit. Give you some heavy weapons training, or stick you on some submarine analyzing data, using remote controls to drop bombs from a predator drone and who knows what kinds of hoots and hollers might emerge from you.

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Originally Posted by Darcy88

Haha. Same here. I get people talking heinous allegations and smack all the time on the internet and behind my back but they never show up to my house. People realize they're dealing with a real man and they cower...

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How interesting. What does the idea of a 'real man' mean to you?







J

I can’t speak for Darcy, but to El Sancho it means a dick and two balls are attached. Exceptions to this rule are made if there has been trauma - Jake Barnes, for example.

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Originally Posted by Jack of Hearts

How interesting. What does the idea of a 'real man' mean to you?







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Someone who won't be bullied. I will take petty insults usually, but sometimes people go behind my back saying heinous things and it gets back to me and I think of suing for slander. The word got out that I will sue for slander and now people have chilled out and I have stopped hearing these rumours.

A real man is a non-pushover. I don't get beastly or anything, even though I train fighting hours every day. I just let it be known that I will not tolerate spurious attacks against my name. Some people will tolerate them. Some people are too afraid to stand up for themselves. I don't mean to insult such people. I feel sorry for them and as someone confident enough in my own abilities I try as often as I can to come to such peoples' defence.

I am constantly torn between devoting my time and ambition to art or to causes. I constantly feel an intense desire to help people and I think I could better help working in a soup kitchen or doing marketing for a charity than I could as a novelist or martial artist or musician.

Once I get my health issues sorted out I will be forced to choose. I can maintain a balance, but I need to decide how I am going to spend the hours between 9 and 5. I can eek out a living as a starving artist or I can eek out an existence as a volunteer.

Bleh, more gender threads. Why do you folks put so much of the stalk of your identity on gender? Isn't there anything more to you than what's between your legs? Are you not capable of thought outside of your biological classification? Dull, dull, dull. Hackneyed and dull.

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Originally Posted by JuniperWoolf

Bleh, more gender threads. Why do you folks put so much of the stalk of your identity on gender? Isn't there anything more to you than what's between your legs? Dull, dull, dull. Hackneyed and dull.

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From the great David Herbert Lawrence:


"Did you hate Clifford?' she said at last.

`Hate him, no! I've met too many like him to upset myself hating him. I know beforehand I don't care for his sort, and I let it go at that.'

`What is his sort?'

`Nay, you know better than I do. The sort of youngish gentleman a bit like a lady, and no balls.'

`What balls?'

`Balls! A man's balls!'

She pondered this.

`But is it a question of that?' she said, a little annoyed.

`You say a man's got no brain, when he's a fool: and no heart, when he's mean; and no stomach when he's a funker. And when he's got none of that spunky wild bit of a man in him, you say he's got no balls. When he's a sort of tame.'

She pondered this.

`And is Clifford tame?' she asked.

`Tame, and nasty with it: like most such fellows, when you come up against 'em.'"

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Originally Posted by Darcy88

I am very proud of what lies between my legs.

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Why? It grew by chance, you had nothing to do with it. Also your endocrine system is only very slightly different from that of a female, but try telling a layman that. They think bodies of males are composed of crystalized testosterone and females crystalized estrogen, nevermind that females also have testosterone and males also have estrogen in their systems, and the variation and impact of these hormones is relatively slight (which is determined by observing animals who have had their estrogen and testosterone inhibited).

If one derives their identity and sense of worth from their adherence to their specific gender stereotypes, ie. being a "REAL man" or being a "REAL woman," it simply indicates that they have very little to be proud of besides, and so they're reaching.

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Originally Posted by JuniperWoolf

Why? It grew by chance, you had nothing to do with it. Also your endocrine system is only very slightly different from that of a female, but try telling a layman that. They think bodies of males are composed of crystalized testosterone and females crystalized estrogen, nevermind that females also have testosterone and males also have estrogen in their systems, and the variation and impact of these hormones is relatively slight (which is determined by observing animals who have had their estrogen and testosterone inhibited).

If one derives their identity and sense of worth from their adherence to their specific gender stereotypes, ie. being a "REAL man" or being a "REAL woman," it simply indicates that they have very little to be proud of besides, and so they're reaching.

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I am very in touch with my masculine side and my feminine side. I cry a lot. I watch lame romantic comedies. I write mushy romantic fiction. I wear girl clothes, particularly pants, if they look like they can be worn on a man without looking too girly. I love fashion, shopping, though only at second hand stores.

But I'm also proud of being a man. I like that on the rare occasions I accompany a young woman out on the town late at night that she feels very safe with me. I embrace the role of protector. I train fighting all the time, I am really into honour. If someone insults the honour of my mother or a female family member or friend I have to be talked out of doing something stupid and rash about it. I may have a lot of estrogen in my body, but as a young man I also have a lot of testosterone. I want to embrace it as I know it will only decline with age. I want to look back on my youth when I am an old man and think "damn I lived and thought and wrote with passionate intensity."

That's really all I can say on it. I embrace the feminine and the masculine. I'm somewhat androgynous, but still hyper-masculine. I'm weird. Hahaha.

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Originally Posted by Darcy88

I am very in touch with my masculine side and my feminine side.

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But why do you bother to make such distinctions and put so much into them, it's so limiting. Why can't you just be Darcy?

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Originally Posted by JuniperWoolf

But why do you bother to make such distinctions and put so much into them, it's so limiting. Why can't you just be Darcy?

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Good point there Juniper there is nothing better then being you and that is yourself.

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Originally Posted by Sancho

I can’t speak for Darcy, but to El Sancho it means a dick and two balls are attached. Exceptions to this rule are made if there has been trauma - Jake Barnes, for example.

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Well. That's an easy club to get into.







J

To hell with machismo. Its been my dream to either be a prize fighter or a soldier but there's no way I can pass the medicals. I will just be my "other" self - the intellectual nerd.