what attracts you first?

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Originally Posted by TurquoiseSunset

I hope that's rare among the general populace. Helga mentioned being awkward around men, but I'm awkward around EVERYONE, even online, where anonymity is supposed to help with those things. I always have been and I don't know why that is. I don't get nervous and it's not about impressing them... I don't know.

Anyway, what I have noticed is that when I see a very handsome guy and he says something stupid or arrogant or anything that reflects negatively on his personality or intelligence, I don't find him as good looking anymore after that.

Overall I try to be open minded, because I know how difficult is to try and get the 'real me' across, heh.

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This could have been written by me, TurquoiseSunset! I, too, try not to be judgemental because it takes awhile for people to know or understand me. Which is fine. I know me. :D

As far as men are concerned, theoretically the physical descriptions that Juniper mentioned I also find attractive. Beauty in it's abstract form is always appealing. In real life, the eyes have it, and after that, of course, character. Someone who's kind, thoughtful, intelligent, funny. Kind and funny go a long, long way with me. And it's a rarer combination than you might think.

A sense of humor, kindness, and tolerance for my inability to control myself. Intelligence is also necessary factor.

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Originally Posted by TurquoiseSunset

I hope that's rare among the general populace. Helga mentioned being awkward around men, but I'm awkward around EVERYONE, even online, where anonymity is supposed to help with those things. I always have been and I don't know why that is. I don't get nervous and it's not about impressing them... I don't know.

Anyway, what I have noticed is that when I see a very handsome guy and he says something stupid or arrogant or anything that reflects negatively on his personality or intelligence, I don't find him as good looking anymore after that.

Overall I try to be open minded, because I know how difficult is to try and get the 'real me' across, heh.

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In general this is true about me too, but the thing is I avoid people and don't really talk to women or men, but if a man strikes up a conversation I get very nervous and awkward. Women never talk to me unless I know them so that isn't really a problem. I can't even order a pizza I get so nervous over the phone and just babble something.

I also agree with you that if a guy says something stupid he doesn't seem that attractive anymore. It also bugs me if they think they are sooo cool.

I don't really have a type anyway, I would just want someone with similar interests and thought on life. So a cool t-shirt is something that attracts my attention, a star trek or star wars quote, very cool.

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Anyway, what I have noticed is that when I see a very handsome guy and he says something stupid or arrogant or anything that reflects negatively on his personality or intelligence, I don't find him as good looking anymore after that.

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But look at it from the guys perspective. We kind of know we have to a 3 to 4 minute window and cannot say anything "stupid" or lame- in order to move past the introduction phase.(OK, it's my theory, but based on umpteen years of experience).

Even for confident guys, you can and will drop the ball and then BAM - you're out. Soooo, I'm not *****in about the laws of attraction- just leave a little wiggle room in the event the guy fumbles. It could just have been slip

Haha! This is why the bar scene sucks! I think the best way to "meet" someone is to just be able to have time with them as friends- then they'll get to know you whether or not you like it. Either it is or it isn't. Why try to hide the defects? Be with someone who is forgiving and accepts what you are in all your colors? No?

I like women who are similar to me. Intelligent, beautiful, pretty lips, excellent breasts...

OK, Varene... you have my attention.:devil:

When it comes to looks, the face is always the most important attribute, to me.

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Originally Posted by stlukesguild

I like women who are similar to me. Intelligent, beautiful, pretty lips, excellent breasts...

OK, Varene... you have my attention.:devil:

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Now now StLukes, aren't you being a little unkind? Shouldn't that read ..." my undivided attention?"

That's what I meant.:nod:

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Originally Posted by stlukesguild

That's what I meant.:nod:

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I should have guessed. :D

Ha, I've missed this excellent thread! I love the image banter and Alex's phrase 'milky breasts' in particular.

For me? Oh I don't know, maybe a woman that doesn't talk a lot and leaves me in peace. Attractiveness for me equals a women that doesn't nag or spend excessive amounts of beer money on clothes. I realise this discounts ALL women and that one is living in dream world, but one can fantasize...

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Originally Posted by tonywalt

... just leave a little wiggle room in the event the guy fumbles. It could just have been slip

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Yeah, cut a guy a break!







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I like women who are similar to me. Intelligent, beautiful, pretty lips, excellent breasts...

OK, Varene... you have my attention.:devil:

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Haha. I like the little devil face. Naughty.

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Originally Posted by Varenne Rodin

My preference here also comes from shorter guys expressing that they don't like that I'm taller than them (5'8"). I'm not interested in people who feel less confident when they stand next to me, and I like to wear heels.

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Short guys do get the short end of the stick. Short women tend to prefer taller guys (not sure why) and tall women don't seem to like being much taller, if at all, than their boyfriend.

1. Nice hair.
2. Shorter than me, or roughly the same height.
3. Functional genitalia.

Anything else is open to negotiation.

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Originally Posted by Charles Darnay

Short guys do get the short end of the stick. Short women tend to prefer taller guys (not sure why) and tall women don't seem to like being much taller, if at all, than their boyfriend.

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Good points, Charles. After thinking the matter over, there are some hot short guys. Michael J. Fox, Seth Green, Peter Dinklage. Short guys need love too.

Tell me about it. I'm 5'3".

Damn!

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Originally Posted by qimissung

Kind and funny go a long, long way with me.

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I don't dislike kindness (I don't remember ever having been attracted to it specifically though, unless it's that helpless-first-time-out-of-my-parents'-house-never-had-a-real-job-before type of "nice" that could be called "innocence," I'm into that for some reason), but I dislike fake kindness which is what you often see. You can always tell when people are hiding their true selves as you hang out with that person, if thier true self isn't "nice" then I'd like them much better if they didn't pretend to be, so I'll try to coax them to just ease up, relax.

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Originally Posted by Helga

I can't even order a pizza I get so nervous over the phone and just babble something.

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Haha, that sounds like my boyfriend. Social awkwardness abounds especially on the phone, and if he screws up once he just spins his tires and gets even more tongue-tied. More than once he's just turned bright red, handed me the phone and stiffly walked away (with me and the person on the other line laughing at him profusely).

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Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandis

When it comes to looks, the face is always the most important attribute, to me.

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Welcome back.

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Originally Posted by OrphanPip

3. Functional genitalia.

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Haha, yeah, that's non-negotiable, can't believe I forgot that.

does flirt count in all of these? apperently some people are attracted to a good flirt haha not that I am saying that I am or that I am one LOL

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Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandis

Tell me about it. I'm 5'3".

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Well some women go for the short guys. Look at Alan Ladd and James Cagney for example they were both about your height . And then there was that photograph of Mickey Rooney dancing with Raquel Welch. You couldn't see his face but I think he was smiling.

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Originally Posted by Varenne Rodin

Good points, Charles. After thinking the matter over, there are some hot short guys. Michael J. Fox, Seth Green, Peter Dinklage. Short guys need love too.

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Oh you just stole the words out of my head. When I was a teen I had a huge crush on Michael J. Fox and Seth Green is THE hottest nerd around, now Dinklage is a recent addition, in Thrones nobody is as hot as he his.

[QUOTE=Varenne Rodin;1148686] Intelligent, beautiful, pretty lips, excellent breasts, feminine.

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Well yes, those too. Goes without saying.

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Oh you just stole the words out of my head. When I was a teen I had a huge crush on Michael J. Fox and Seth Green is THE hottest nerd around, now Dinklage is a recent addition, in Thrones nobody is as hot as he his.

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:yesnod: Nerds are cute, that's the messy-brown-hair-with-glasses type I mentioned earlier.

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Originally Posted by OrphanPip

3. Functional genitalia.

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Originally Posted by Alexander III

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LOL that is crude:p

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Originally Posted by Alexander III

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Originally Posted by JuniperWoolf

:yesnod: Nerds are cute, that's the messy-brown-hair-with-glasses type I mentioned earlier.

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Wow. I love Brick. J.G.L. ftw!

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Originally Posted by Alexander III

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Hah!

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Originally Posted by Varenne Rodin

Wow. I love Brick. J.G.L. ftw!

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*drool* I know, I don't know what it is about him but he's got to be one of the most enamouring humans I've ever seen. Also, he's got to be shorter than 5'10, so he's not tall either.

sorry I have to say I do not get the scruffy look. what does it mean in general apart from looking rushed and scruffy?

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Originally Posted by cacian

sorry I have to say I do not get the scruffy look. what does it mean in general apart from looking rushed and scruffy?

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.....cuz some women like a bit of scruff and rush:p

You don't see many people in london anymore with the scruffy look, everyone in london seems to have the short and neat and badass haircuts from the 1930's.

In paris and Italy you still have remnants of scruffy but it is dying out there too. Especially amongst the lower-middleclass, for some reason they love the scruffy look.

Spain's always been amazing bohemian, all over.

I have no idea how America is, but it must differ I expect a lot from region to region.

America has everything. All walks of life.

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Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandis

Tell me about it. I'm 5'3".

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5'3" and under guys who haven't had trouble:

Malcolm and Angus Young of AC/DC (both 5'2")
Paul Simon (married Edie Brickell!)
All three Stooges (especially Curly, in his pre-Stooge days--he had long, curly hair and a waxed mustache and was quite the ladies' man)

Moral: If you're interesting, nobody gives a damn. Especially if you can play music or make them laugh.

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Originally Posted by Varenne Rodin

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This.

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Originally Posted by Alexander III

You don't see many people in london anymore with the scruffy look, everyone in london seems to have the short and neat and badass haircuts from the 1930's.

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Really? I suggest a journey on the London underground will reveal a very different state of affairs. Shaven heads and tattoos abound, even among the women, and ridiculous 50-year-old teenagers are usually the only ones to be found with the scruffy long hair of their youth protruding from beneath the ubiquitous baseball cap, occasionally accompanied by an 'Elvis Lives' Tee-shirt. Jeans and trainers are still de rigueur for all occasions but among those of the 20-40 age group the woolly hat has replaced the baseball cap and the unshaven look is still in vogue. While the uglification proceeds apace, it is still possible to see well turned out people if one tries hard enough but they are increasingly difficult to detect.

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Really? I suggest a journey on the London underground will reveal a very different state of affairs. Shaven heads and tattoos abound, even among the women, and ridiculous 50-year-old teenagers are usually the only ones to be found with the scruffy long hair of their youth protruding from beneath the ubiquitous baseball cap, occasionally accompanied by an 'Elvis Lives' Tee-shirt. Jeans and trainers are still de rigueur for all occasions but among those of the 20-40 age group the woolly hat has replaced the baseball cap and the unshaven look is still in vogue. While the uglification proceeds apace, it is still possible to see well turned out people if one tries hard enough but they are increasingly difficult to detect.

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Ok fair enough London is big, and the London I know is very small, I don't really frequent the same zones as you most likley. When I go to clubs at night like Jalouse or China White or Madox or Bugis all the 20 somethings have the neat and elegant 1930's hair and they are all in well-cut blazers and suits, and no one ever wears sneakers.

And during the day time I frequent Kensington or Notting Hill as that is wear my friends live, and in the casinos's it the same.

And yes you are right on the tube you see lot's of ugliness but the poor have always been ugly, there has never been a time when they have been beautiful so moot point.

Hair, eyes, openness, body, voice, confidence, easygoing-ness. All of these.

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Ok fair enough London is big, and the London I know is very small, I don't really frequent the same zones as you most likley. When I go to clubs at night like Jalouse or China White or Madox or Bugis all the 20 somethings have the neat and elegant 1930's hair and they are all in well-cut blazers and suits, and no one ever wears sneakers.

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Boring-nice and seedy is better.

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You are kidding, right?

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Originally Posted by Alexander III

Ok fair enough London is big, and the London I know is very small, I don't really frequent the same zones as you most likley. When I go to clubs at night like Jalouse or China White or Madox or Bugis all the 20 somethings have the neat and elegant 1930's hair and they are all in well-cut blazers and suits, and no one ever wears sneakers.

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I'm glad to hear it but will it start to set the trend of well dressed persons that went out of the window with the media manufactured style of the 1960s i.e long hair, tee shirt, jeans and trainers that disfigured the landscape until the much-needed economic crash of 2008 ? I say much-needed because a measure of self-respect is a necessary requirement for a civilized existence, and funny money is the death of civilisation.