People are often afraid of the histories, but Henry IV is a great one to start.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta40
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People are often afraid of the histories, but Henry IV is a great one to start.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta40
why would they afraid of history?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charles Darnay
do you consider shakespeare as a true of portrayer of history?
Thanks Kelby I was just pontificating about why his birth was unknown since they every single detail about his life his parents his house etc..Quote:
Originally Posted by kelby_lake
I imagine the records of births and deaths were not quite as accurate as they are now and I had heard that often the date of baptism was often considered the more relevant date too. Is that true?
I am not sure because I have heard that youneed a date of birth to be baptised. The other thing is that his parents were alive at the time of the baptism and so for them not be aware of his date of birth sounds rather weird to me anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Delta40
There are others much earlier writers and scholars that have a date of birth to them, recording dates of birth was a crucial part of the roman church laws and baptisms because it records the number to citizens who adhere to the church through baptism and those who don't are then considered heretics. One is not able to be baptised if one has not a date of birth to them because then they are automatically considered as being born outside the laws of catholicisms and marriage. The time of Shakespeare was in the middle ages and under the roman church and so for him to not have a date of birth he would have been considederedas being born outside a marriage or an oprhan.
It does not make sense that he does not have a date of birth.
I'm sure somebody more learned than I will address it Cacian but I'm as interested as you although I'm less inclined to say it is weird. All I know is that there are no records of his birth except his baptism at the Holy Trinity Church which is Anglican and not Catholic.
Well, I just read this bit of news.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-17828729
Shakespeare may have indeed had a co-author in All's Well that Ends Well. Not surprising news.
Oh and I was in the know that shakespeare was more then two....there many discrepencies in styles inmany of his plays and writing it is very obvious to the naked eye.Quote:
Originally Posted by PoeticPassions
He distorted history a bit for theatrical purposes. Also, he used only one source for his histories, so talk about a bias perspective. Furthermore, 9/10 histories were written during the time of Elizabeth I, so he had to show a certain respect to her house and lineage.Quote:
Originally Posted by cacian
As for why people tend to avoid the History plays: people think that they are drying than the comedies/tragedies - this is not so. What is true however, is that they require a bit of background that Shakespeare's audience would have been well versed in but we today (particularly if you are not living in the UK) not so much.