Thank you, Tony. That's a sweet thing to say. :)
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Thank you, Tony. That's a sweet thing to say. :)
I agree with that disagreement.Quote:
Originally Posted by tonywalt
But if you "go before life isn't worth living" then you're going while life is still worth living, correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by Varenne Rodin
And while you may start declining physically in middle age, you can still grow mentally.
Why call a halt with heights still to be reached?
It is legal in Canada at least, but you still don't get the life insurance, I think that'd have to do with what contract you have with the insurance agency. Usually the death has to be accidental or due to disease to claim.Quote:
Originally Posted by JuniperWoolf
As an aside, bans on assisted suicide have been ruled unconstitutional by the BC supreme court, so the federal government has one year to challenge the ruling or re-write the law to give people the right to assisted suicide.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...de-ruling.html
It's not stupid when a teenager takes their life though. I guess the issue for me is that the rates of suicide are much larger in this age group and twenties than any other. Folk who are terminal happen to make up a much smaller proportion.
Assisted suicide and young people offing themselves are perhaps two different issues then?
People in their mid 30s to 50s are the most likely to kill themselves, at least according to Statistics Canada.
http://www.statcan.gc.ca/tables-tabl...lth66d-eng.htm
Rates for seniors and teenagers are actually similar.
Anyway, the main reason suicide was legalized in Canada was so that the approach would be medical rather than criminal. Instead of locking up and punishing those who try to commit suicide, you offer them help which they have the right to refuse or accept. The government can't even hold you for longer than 3 days, if they want to hold you longer they must determine that you are a risk to others.
I think this is the best approach as it doesn't abandon those who are in need of help, but it also respects individual liberty.
Good point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calidore
When one gets to 50 one will probably realize that 75 is a better age to go anyway.
Yeah, apparently (according to this website) most life insurance plans in Canada have this thing where if you kill yourself within two years of buying insurance, your family just gets a "return of premium" (whatever that means), but no insurance money. I guess if you you were a Canadian prone to depression you'd try to find an insurance company with a good suicide provision.Quote:
Originally Posted by OrphanPip
Well that's good news. One of my biggest fears is getting terminally ill and being forced to die slowly, grossly, and completely without dignity.Quote:
Originally Posted by OrphanPip
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Some people when diagnosed terminally ill, find they really want to live and put up an amazing fight all the way to the end. I guess we really don't know what we will do until we are there.
Sorry I didn't respond to this sooner. Thank you for your lovely thoughts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calidore
Rheumatoid Arthritis and Alzheimer's run in my family. I will have majorly declined by age 40, give or take 3 years. At age 50 I will be someone my family will hate, and pity and no longer wish to be involved with. I can already feel my decay. I don't enjoy many aspects of life anymore. Truly, I wish I had never been born. Since I can't fix that, I'll just get out after I have fulfilled my obligations to others.
It should be a legal right, because people are going to kill themselves whether it's illegal or not. If it's illegal, all that means is that family of the person who kills themselves doesn't get the life insurance money, so not only are they devistated by grief they're also crippled financially by funeral costs, and they're screwed if the person who killed themselves was their provider. So yeah, making suicide illegal is stupid.
Hmmm... for someone who often takes the conservative point of view, how do you explain your position on this matter? Why should the insurance company (and ultimately all the others who pay the premiums for insurance) need to cover the bill for those who commit suicide? There's the line from Its a Wonderful Life, "You're worth more dead than alive." What is to stop some individuals who see no other way out of a financial bind from turning to suicide merely as a way to provide a windfall for their family?
Yeah, apparently (according to this website) most life insurance plans in Canada have this thing where if you kill yourself within two years of buying insurance, your family just gets a "return of premium" (whatever that means), but no insurance money.
They just get back the money paid into the policy (the premium).
You're welcome. Very sorry to hear about the genetic landmines. Not much we can do about those, and it sucks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varenne Rodin
I'm told that my family gets arthritis also. My younger sister was hit by it a while ago (apparently it's exacerbated by stress, and it turns out having a baby is stressful--who knew?), but I, a lifelong knuckle-cracker, have been spared. Some years ago she was given some newish medication for it , which she loves; it works great and side effects are mininal to nonexistent. I'll be happy to find out what it is if you like.
We get Alzheimer's too, but late. Those of my grandmother's siblings who died of natural causes got it in their late 80s, which would be fine with me. Death terrifies me, and I have no problem at all with no longer being able to comprehend it or see it coming.
You obviously know your family better than I do, but are you sure about
or is that how you feel about what you think you'll become? They may beg to differ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varenne Rodin
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