Humans begin with a blank slate, zoolane, monkeys begin with the Bible.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoolane
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Humans begin with a blank slate, zoolane, monkeys begin with the Bible.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoolane
Actual human evolve from apes like creatures but my question is same.Quote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
If apes or humans did not evolve with think for themselves and learn how to live. How was commonsense and know what right and wrong? only because the principal idea for it is human nature like revenge and forgiveness.
See now you going from monkey bible which has only being create in 2010. Obvious you're monkey Christian. Lol.
Just as bogus as the fourQuote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
before
him
What does that have to do with anything? You said, "(The Christian) believes a lot of things, none of which are true."Quote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
This is clearly ridiculous, as can be proved by pointing to one thing "the Christian" believes that is true. Whether "many Christians" believe things that are not true is irrelevent to the fact that your initial statement is clearly not only wrong, but ludicrous.
Name one thing that Christians are right about.
I am a monkey alright but not a Christian. Lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by zoolane
If we go right back, we were all fish. You should see their little Christian faces when you drop that one on them.
In myth I supposed we are fish but science fic fact prove that reality was that we all monkey in the beginning.Quote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
Now you are simply asking me to repeat myself. Read the darned posts!Quote:
Originally Posted by GLW
Go back a page.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecurb
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OK, whatever you say. "Elinor agreed to it all, for she did not think he deserved the compliment of rational opposition." Sense and Sensibility, Jane Austen.
That's a lie, I'm definitely God.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atehequa
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Originally Posted by G L Wilson
Rewards for the offerings he does give
Are in man's mind where the gods do live
I know it's a lie as humans are primates, but all people are not human
I'm definitely am
Spot on, Tinkerbell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atehequa
Many Christians believe Obama is black. What does that prove?
Assuming we agree that Obama is black, it proves that you were incorrect to state, "(The Christian) believes a lot of things, none of which are true."Quote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
What part of logical inference do you fail to understand?
Assuming we agree that Obama is black, what part of logical inference do you not understand?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecurb
I understand logical inference quite well, thank you. You said, ""(The Christian) believes a lot of things, none of which are true." If I can find one thing that the Christian believes which is true, your statement is clearly belied. Why is this difficult for you to understand?
Name one fact a Christian is right about, one!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecurb
"Washington D.C. is the capital of the United States."Quote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
"Cogito ergo sum."
"The sun is not only bigger than the earth, but it is also farther away."
There are three.
Fail :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ecurb
"Elinor agreed to it all, for she did not think he deserved the compliment of rational opposition." Sense and Sensibility, Jane Austen.Quote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
Show me sense and I will show you reason.
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Originally Posted by G L Wilson
Was that really necessary ?
Wouldn't been better to say you don't want me to reply on any of your threads ?
You reply all you like, mate, it wasn't my intention to stop you. mea culpa it will not happen again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atehequa
Probably not as when it comes down to name calling and allowing such to occur then perhaps LN is not a good fire for me to sit by.Quote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
Awaithe
I cite cultural differences. In Australia, we call redheads bluey. By calling you Tinkerbell, I was actually passing you a compliment on the size of you and commenting on the surprise that your comment caused me. Big Blokes are supposed to be thick, not waxing lyrical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Atehequa
R e m i n d e r
Please do not discuss each other but the topic at hand.
Posts containing personal/inflammatory comments will be deleted without further notice.
Back to the oringal question and few other bysides.Quote:
Originally Posted by virginiawang
Actual human evolve from apes like creatures but my question is same.
If apes or humans did not evolve with think for themselves and learn how to live. How was commonsense and know what right and wrong? only because the principal idea for it is human nature like revenge and forgiveness.
if you beleive god that all well and good. What about if you don't any faith then what? What about if you want retribution of any kind e.g violence, con, out do (keep up with Jones)?
So what said is anyone who seeking revenge should just let go fact of it, true revenge is act all about person who hurt but why should they bring pain to person cause then the pain. If you want example: what country has right to killed person for the crimes they commit. The Christian forgiveness?
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OK everybody does things in everyday life which Christian person would class as sin but personal it human nature it in our genes. How else do learn or teach right from wrong to anyone? Please do not try tell me thought bible.
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Man is freedom, zoolane, that is all you need to know, all else is not needed.
Meaning what excalted? that men free to do whatever it please to? act kindness and violence?Quote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
There are no limits to what a man might do.
Why revenge, since even the desire for revenge, just makes things worse? At best, the avenger will have blood on his hands, on his conscience. And often, the object of revenge is to be pitied, even more than despised. Find something constructive to do, instead.
And from a Christian perspective:
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1 John 4:7___ Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.
To fear not pain is to love.
If a person's actions attract revenge, then they deserve it.
They deserve something - perhaps the weight of the law.
A revenger may well commit something that dehumanises them, and what was the good of that then? That's what the law is for - to take away the need for extreme action by the individual that may well be an overreaction in the expression of their hatred.
I once saw a documentary with a jewish woman who had survived the concentration camps. Soon after she came upon some other survivors who were confronting a German woman with a baby in all their grief and anger. She stood up to them and protected the German woman, and her argument was that hatred had caused the persecution, and that to carry it on does no-one any good.
If an act is so bad - then it deserves the law.
If it doesn't warrant the law - well what are you worrying about it for? It's not worth it.
To strive for justice requires patience, revenge requires haste.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by G L Wilson
That you posted this in the "Religious Texts" forum tells me that you must be referring to Hebrews 10:30, but the question is why?
Are you looking for reassurance that revenge (i.e. trying to
effect justice by your own hand) is justified?
I'm not by any stretch a Biblical scholar, but I seriously doubt you'll find justification for personal vengeance in the
Scriptures.
Similarly, I lack a legal background, but conventional wisdom seems to point me toward assuming that revenge is generally not sanctioned by civil authorities as well.
Even if it were, how would wreaking revenge toward those who have wronged you help your situation in the long run? It might not even make you "feel" any better! Hence, the expression, "Revenge is a dish that is better served cold."
I am not, nevertheless, dismissing your statement that you might be a victim of some sort of abuse. If so, if I were you, I would not take matters in my own hands.
If you are a student, seek out a counselor, teacher, or administrator (principal) and talk to him or her. If school has already been dismissed for the summer, then find a clergyman, even if you aren't a regular church goer.
If you are in immediate danger, call 911 or whatever the emergency number is in your area.
Get Help.
"The revenger of blood himself shall slay the murderer: when he meeteth him, he shall slay him."Quote:
Originally Posted by AuntShecky
Numbers 35: 19