FYI, DigitalCrash, I started a new RPG, if you're interested.
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FYI, DigitalCrash, I started a new RPG, if you're interested.
Yeah, I'm sorry, I should probably be there a little more often... I am the admin there after all... >.<
I found another interesting site to go to for this:
www.enneagraminstitute.com
It's really interesting and contains a lot of info
I am currently reading:
http://www.enneagraminstitute.com/history.asp
I'm a 4w5, which seems pretty accurate to me, I was thinking that this was very stereotyping, but I practically cried when I read the first part of the description, it was a very close fit. It seems to me that I am an individualist.
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People of this personality type tend to build their identities around their perception of themselves as being somehow different or unique; they are thus self-consciously individualistic. Fours tend to see their difference from others as being both a gift and a curse.
Fours are emotionally complex and highly sensitive. They long to be understood and appreciated for their authentic selves, but easily feel misunderstood and unappreciated. They have a tendency to withdraw in the face of a world that seems harsh or crude, and are often somewhat moody or temperamental. They are emotionally centered and spend much of their lives immersed in their internal mental landscapes, where they feel free to cultivate and analyse their feelings.
I guess I have just accepted that I have been set apart, and that I have a special mission in life.
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Originally Posted by RJbibliophil
The part that came across through me was a part from the section I was reading (that link that ends in history):
and I always saw myself as modest and humble... looks like I have been very prideful after all... :(Quote:
Passion:
Pride (Vainglory). Pride is the caused by the loss of the virtue of humility. But pride is said to be the root of all evil and underlies all of the Capital Sins, so to distinguish it further, we can also call this vainglory. Vainglory is a pride in one's own goodness, taking a special satisfaction in one's own virtue, seeing oneself only as a loving, well-intentioned person. The passion is not the tendency to be generous and kind, but the compulsion to call attention to one's generosity and kindness. This is "goodness" that calls attention to itself so that they will be admired for being selfless, praised for being humble, rewarded for being self-sacrificial, repaid for being generous, and so forth.
Another more subtle element to pride is the inability to admit that we are hurting, the unwillingness to acknowledge our own suffering and neediness. This part in each of us says "You've got problems, not me! I'm okay and I'm here to help you." But in fact, all of us, and particularly Twos, are terrified that we will break down and people will see how sad and lonely we are much of the time. Not only does pride prevent us from allowing people to see that we are in pain, it also prevents us from letting people see that we need anything, or that we are really trying to get something from others. Pride can also be seen as a fundamental denial of the loss of contact with Essence—particularly the loss of contact with qualities of real love.
I am perhaps a little proud, not that everything in that quote agrees with me. I do often feel rejected, but only in a certain crowd. It is strange.
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But in fact, all of us, are terrified that we will break down and people will see how sad and lonely we are much of the time.
I got a 5w4 on both tests, but was all over the 4-5-6 spectrum. Very high for all.
Self-preservation must be the main worry of my life; it dominated every rating of note--the top 5!
I took the Classical Test & the results said :
You are most likely a type 2.
Taking wings into account, you seem to be a 2w1.
Enneagram Type 2 - The Helper
Helpers who need to be needed
Enneagram type 2 - The HelperPeople of this personality type essentially feel that they are worthy insofar as they are helpful to others. Love is their highest ideal. Selflessness is their duty. Giving to others is their reason for being. Involved, socially aware, usually extroverted, Twos are the type of people who remember everyone's birthday and who go the extra mile to help out a co-worker, spouse or friend in need.
Twos are warm, emotional people who care a great deal about their personal relationships, devote an enormous amount of energy to them, and who expect to be appreciated for their efforts. They are practical people who thrive in the helping professions and who know how to make a home comfortable and inviting. Helping others makes Twos feel good about themselves; being needed makes them feel important; being selfless, makes Twos feel virtuous. Much of a Two's self-image revolves around these issues, and any threat to that self-image is scarcely tolerated. Twos are thoroughly convinced of their selflessness, and it is true that they are frequently genuinely helpful and concerned about others. It is equally true, however, that Twos require appreciation; they need to be needed. Their love is not entirely without ulterior motive.
Twos often develop a sense of entitlement when it comes to the people closest to them. Because they have extended themselves for others, they begin to feel that gratitude is owed to them. They can become intrusive and demanding if their often unacknowledged emotional needs go unmet. They can be bossy and manipulative, feeling entirely justified in being so, because they "have earned the right" and their intentions are good. The darkest side of the type Two fixation appears when the Two begins to feel that they will never receive the love they deserve for all of their efforts. Under such circumstances, they can become hysterical, irrational and even abusive.
Because Twos are generally helping others meet their needs, they can forget to take care of their own. This can lead to physical burnout, emotional exhaustion and emotional volatility. Twos need to learn that they can only be of true service to others if they are healthy, balanced and centered in themselves.
Twos can mistype themselves if they are not in an obvious helper role in their professional lives; they might not recognize the extent of their involvement in assisting others. This is especially true for male Twos, who have not received the same social rewards for helping as female Twos receive. Male Twos frequently mistype as Ones or Threes, the wings of type Two. Females, of all types, are bound to recognize some of the dynamics of type Two in their personalities, as such qualities have been socially reinforced. Female Nines, for instance, are especially prone to mistyping as Twos, particularly if they are the mothers of small children. But Nines are self-effacing and humble; Twos are proud and have a strong sense of their own worth.