Fair play? I wasn't the one judging you, starr.
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Fair play? I wasn't the one judging you, starr.
Alas!Quote:
Originally Posted by rachel
Though mostly I believe they just don't understand it. My brother always goes away when my mother and I start talking about the law. And I don't think he has a clue about it.
The American law is very different to ours (Austria's) because of the case law. We have codices where the paragraphs and articles are listed but since the US doesn't have any such "lists" except for the Constitution I think. I wonder, while studying it, did you study the cases?Quote:
Originally Posted by rachel
( I do admit that my knowledge of the American Law is very, very much not there. :rolleyes: I only ever read about it in my "Philosophy of Law" script.)
I certainly hope so. But I don't think I'll be working as attorney or judge or something like that. Though "prosecuting attorney" has a nice ring to it. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by rachel
Doesn't matter that it wasn't you. Older people judge young people, usually harshly. It's an age thing. When I was 17, my elders ridiculed my opinions and it didn't kill me. In certain ways it made me stronger and more determined.Quote:
Originally Posted by RobinHood3000
Think of this in terms of Roman law. If a Roman soldier was insulted by a senior officer, he wasn't allowed to insult him back (on pain of death.) But it was acceptable for the junior officer to take retribution against one of his underlings. This made sense to the Romans, who recognized the right of the injured party to vent his feelings and thus rid himself of a grievance. But they didn't see why it necessarily had to be directed against offending party.
In case you are wondering what ancient Roman law has to do with the modern world, the U.S. and most European countries are based a lot more on the legacy of Rome than on Christianity or other influences.
According to my diploma I am an Environmental Engineering Technologist. My current job title is Construction and Discrete Linear Asset Management Inspector.
Star - You've seemed to develop your own personal view of history. No one actually has on the books any law dating back to the Romans. What your confusing is how nations establish precedents. Meaning that the process is based on the Romans, not the actual laws themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by starrwriter
Of course not, but that isn't what I meant at all. I was merely using an example of Roman law to offer Robin a different perspective. Listen to what I mean, not what I write.Quote:
Originally Posted by Virgil
It's not so bad with children but they get distracted so easily. I usually prepare some games for them. It's a lot of fun, I feel like in the primary school again :lol: But I never thought of lecturing to myself first. I'll have to try it. Thanks for the advice :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pensive
You know, you could just try writing what you mean.Quote:
Originally Posted by starrwriter
My dream is to be a university teacher and a writer. But, here in my country, finding a job is very defficult. Hopefully now, I profess in teaching but not at the university, just in midhigh school. I teach English language for beginners. I hope that I'll find the means to strive to achieve my dreams.
adilyoussef: Best Of Luck! If you will strive, you can acheive your goal.*grins*
Get them out with the DNA process assuming that innocent people don't try to save themselves from the ordeal of a legal trial by pleading guilty, which the majority do (including when they don't think they're guilty). I forget the figures, but most people plead guilty. I think that for the few who do make the effort of going to trial deserve the best lawyers - the best defense lawyers - available. The scales are already so tipped in favour of the prosecution in criminal cases that it is something which I believe the defense really deserve. THe prosecution lawyers typically have far greater resources (to money, research laboratories, experts, etc) and have the power to punish witnesses who refuse to take the stand (at least in the UK, which the defense cannot do). There was a good article about it.... whose name has completely vanished from my memory atm...Quote:
Originally Posted by rachel
Interesting. Why woould prosecuters try to put innocent people in jail? I'm sure there is always the odd case, but are you saying it's the norm in UK?Well, in the US I've seen a survey that said that 93% of people actually on trial are guilty. The odds are if you make it all the way to trial (there are a number of steps where checks are in place) you are probably guilty of something.Quote:
Originally Posted by fayefaye
WHAT?? No, I'm not saying that anybody would try to put innocent people in jail! I'm saying that most people plead guilty, and of those that do, it's slightly dubious that those who do are all guilty. There are some systemic issues which commentators have suggested tip the scales in favour of the prosecution. One which has been cited is actually the psychological assumption that somebody who has made it to trial is guilty. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by VIRGIL
At any rate, I don't think it's in any way less noble to work for the defense than for the prosecution, that is all.
well then I will just have to work all the harder then and hope that God will give me His wisdom about the most deserving of cases.I can only hope to get one person out at a time. It takes a great deal of time and work and fortunate circumstances to get a person out. Once incarcerated the system doesn't really take to letting someone go.In Canada here for instance in at least two cases actual young teens, little more than children really were given life sentences for murders they did not committ. And even when proven beyond a shadow of a doubt to be innocent it took years and years. It still makes me feel desperate and sad to think about their shattered young lives and all the emotional and mental problems they now have despite financial compensation.
All I can do is do my best. ABout everyone pleading guilty, is this for money reasons, because even blatant murderers here plead not guilty as a matter of course. I am upset to find this out from you. This is terrible, why on earth would anyone plead guilty as a matter of course. Horrible.
I don't know much about law, so I don't know how common it is, but I've heard of many cases in which the lawyers offer a plea bargain to get the accused to confess. They tell them that, even if they're innocent, the jury will find them guilty; but that if they plead guilty in the first place, they'll be given a lighter sentence. This is an easy way of scaring an innocent person into confessing.Quote:
Originally Posted by rachel
Yes, that happens.
I could only imagine that they would try to seem rueful. And if someone confesses a crime, that's supposed to be an extenuating cause. Of course, it depends on the crime and circumstances how helpful a confession may be.Quote:
Originally Posted by rachel
I believe that it's more of a rumour than anything else. At least, in Austria it would not be possible to happen that way. It's always "in dubio pro reo" after all.
A student, of Eng lit.
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I hope you enjoy very long work hours and small pay. Journalists are the lepers of the writing profession. I still have the scars to prove it long after I came to my senses and bailed out of journalism.Quote:
Originally Posted by smilingtearz
Was that an advice for me to change my plan...or was it your way of wishing me "good luck"Quote:
hope you enjoy very long work hours and small pay...
:D
I think the phrase I used -- "lepers of the writing profession" -- should have been a strong clue to my advice.Quote:
Originally Posted by smilingtearz
I'v been flaunting the fact that I'm a student since I joined to forums. But I have no idea what the heck I want to do. I'm first year honours arts. I will likely go into drama because thats where I sort of have my foot in the door at my university. But no matter what i do (drama, philosophy, english, sociology, religios studies ... ?) I daon't know what I want to do with my life. In the meantime-- I - AM - STUDENT and proud of it.
As full-time ruler you must know that the universe is a nonprofit organization.Quote:
Originally Posted by starrwriter
But there are "back room" deals to be made, as in all non-profit organizations. The executives of NPs are generally well-paid.Quote:
Originally Posted by AimusSage
Yes of course, why do you think I am only part time ruler of the universe, all the benefits without the hassle. And when something interesting happens, I can still take the credit.Quote:
Originally Posted by starrwriter
Dark Lord, I went to school for pharmacy. Does that count? (I'd say it does...)
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Originally Posted by Themis
Is that why I almost vomited after sitting in a torts class...I suggest reading those rules of negligence again. Or how's 'bout that 12(B)6 motion? The civ. pro. flow chart is really interesting too. Hey, I'm impressed, you're the first I know who has used the word "fun" and "law" in the same breath. :D
I don't know. Food poisoning perhaps?Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1jt
I like the law and to me it isn't boring. I've already read enough of it to know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1jt
You don't know many law students, do you? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jon1jt
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