The Worse Roman Emperor?

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Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandi

That one guy who killed Russel Crowe's family and then fought him after stabbing him in the side like a coward. He was the worst.

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Great answer!

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Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandi

That one guy who killed Russel Crowe's family and then fought him after stabbing him in the side like a coward. He was the worst.

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:yesnod: He had that weird thing with his sister too, gross! Definitely the worst.

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Originally Posted by JuniperWoolf

:yesnod: He had that weird thing with his sister too, gross! Definitely the worst.

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Yeah . . . but, in his defense, his sister was smokin' hot.

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Originally Posted by OrphanPip

You have to be careful in believing everything the Romans wrote about the emperors, because much of the history was political propaganda, or often hearsay written down centuries later.

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Correct. On commission.

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Originally Posted by OrphanPip

You have to be careful in believing everything the Romans wrote about the emperors, because much of the history was political propaganda, or often hearsay written down centuries later.

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That's a good point, OrphanPip. I'm glad cafolini quoted this or I would have missed it. We really can't assume that what we heard about these guys is true.

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Originally Posted by Mutatis-Mutandi

That one guy who killed Russel Crowe's family and then fought him after stabbing him in the side like a coward. He was the worst.

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Be fair. It was Russell Crowe. So you can see his point.

Commodus was definitely a nasty piece of work but as to whether he was worse than any of the others is an open question. He actually ruled for 12 years and was unquestionably of a bloodthirsty and licentious disposition. As to whether he ever indulged in single combat with Russel Crowe is somewhat doubtful, however, he did hunt wild beasts in the arena for the gratification of the mob, but afterwards demanded to be worshiped as Hercules. He was eventually murdered by one of his concubines whom he had determined to put to death, but she poisoned him first. The poison was slow to kill him though, so an athlete, one Narcissus, was ordered to strangle him.

Robert Graves and the BBC would have us believe that Claudius was a nice old buffer, but he could be just as psychotic as the rest. He is reported to have blinded one of his officials by stabbing him in the eye with a stylus.

There has been a theory postulated that all the Roman Aristocracy who drank wine were suffering from lead poisoning. The wine was stored in lead lined vessels and the acids in the wine leached toxic compounds from the linings more effectively than ordinary water did. It should be remembered that Romans used lead (plumbum in Latin) pipes for water, which is where our word plumber comes from.

Anyway, I don't think the Roman emperors should be granted sole propriatory rights over beastliness. The modern age has produced its share of maniacs. Uncle jo Stalin was pretty bad, not to mention Pol Pot. The list is endless.

Good points.

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Originally Posted by JuniperWoolf

:yesnod: He had that weird thing with his sister too, gross! Definitely the worst.

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most roman emperors were just like the Pharoahs, having it on with their own families. the pharoahs were prolific incestious people.
it ranged from mother father brother and sister, young or old. Power stinks when it comes down to that.
gross when you think Cleopatra married her youngest brother..yuk!
amasing when you watch programms about them no one mention how vile they were with their sexual deviances.

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Originally Posted by cacian

most roman emperors were just like the Pharoahs, having it on with their own families. the pharoahs were prolific incestious people.
it ranged from mother father brother and sister, young or old. Power stinks when it comes down to that.
gross when you think Cleopatra married her youngest brother..yuk!
amasing when you watch programms about them no one mention how vile they were with their sexual deviances.

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What we call incest today was strictly cultural in Egypt and has nothing to do with the behaviour of Roman emperors. It was the way of the aristocracy. Of course that doesn't preclude their corrupted power dealings.

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Originally Posted by cafolini

What we call incest today was strictly cultural in Egypt and has nothing to do with the behaviour of Roman emperors. It was the way of the aristocracy. Of course that doesn't preclude their corrupted power dealings.

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Yea califony is actualy right here, we can;t judge other cultures based on our own cultural assumptions.

For example our present day culture viewed from the imperial roman standpoint would be effeminate and devoid of any real men, viewed from a 18th century view point we are the vilest of sinners and disgusting deviants.

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Originally Posted by cafolini

What we call incest today was strictly cultural in Egypt and has nothing to do with the behaviour of Roman emperors. It was the way of the aristocracy. Of course that doesn't preclude their corrupted power dealings.

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cultural?since when incest became culture?
I would not call these poeple anyhting but aristocractic.
Incest is insane leading to more insanity.
How these so called pharoahs/people ruled, being born out of incest, is beyond my imagination.
Pharoahs had nothing to do with culture or aristocracy as far as I am concerned.
Their behaviour was sick beyon belief.
Glad they are gone.Did they really think they were going to last after that?

P.S:
Pharoah in arabic means sinner because they committed incest.
Hence the name pharoah in arabic.

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Originally Posted by Alexander III

Yea califony is actualy right here, we can;t judge other cultures based on our own cultural assumptions.

For example our present day culture viewed from the imperial roman standpoint would be effeminate and devoid of any real men, viewed from a 18th century view point we are the vilest of sinners and disgusting deviants.

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I am afraid I cannot agree.
Incest is incest.
It is not jusfified and is never is.
To call incest cultural is an insult on human intelligence.
Sorry but this is my position on this matter.
I cannot possibly justify that.

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Originally Posted by cacian

I am afraid I cannot agree.
Incest is incest.
It is not jusfified and is never is.
To call incest cultural is an insult on human intelligence.
Sorry but this is my position on this matter.
I cannot possibly justify that.

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I agree with you, incest is incest. Likewise can be said about other things as well. Culture cannot justify behavior.

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Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC

I agree with you, incest is incest. Likewise can be said about other things as well. Culture cannot justify behavior.

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You say incest is incest - fine , we all come from adam and eve, that means by deafult we are all children of incest - how can you justify that then?