UFOs

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Originally Posted by The Atheist

Me too. Many's the night my wife and I stare at the stars wishing Gort would arrive.





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I was always terrified at Gort in the original "The Day the Earth Stood Still" Remake was not nearly as scary.

I saw the original after the remake, and have to agree. The first one brought depth to the concept, that was mostly unknown in the remake.

Here is a video that might prove interesting to this discussion .


http://video.yahoo.com/watch/6941536/18040969


And here is another.


http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=...C&FORM=LKVR14#

Yep, they're pretty typical of videos that UFOlogists try to use.

It's just so damn stupid. The first one, I managed to watch about 45 seconds of it - it's so blindingly obvious that the smudges, dots and blips which are supposed to be UFOs are actually dust, moisture and other artifacts that I didn't see any point in watching more.

The second is a collection of well-known fakes and fallacies joined into one.

If only these people would come up with something new, they might gain some respect, but making extraordinary claims based on idiotic assumptions leaves me cold.

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Originally Posted by Neely

I'm not really a buyer I think. I know that some footage looks mysterious but I'm probably more of a skeptic. Maybe some of them were prototype cold war spy planes or something, I don't know?

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http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/6...craftident.jpg

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Originally Posted by The Atheist

Yep, they're pretty typical of videos that UFOlogists try to use.

It's just so damn stupid. The first one, I managed to watch about 45 seconds of it - it's so blindingly obvious that the smudges, dots and blips which are supposed to be UFOs are actually dust, moisture and other artifacts that I didn't see any point in watching more.

The second is a collection of well-known fakes and fallacies joined into one.

If only these people would come up with something new, they might gain some respect, but making extraordinary claims based on idiotic assumptions leaves me cold.

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I agree that the opening of the first video is as you say, but if you watch on there is some more interesting stuff. Much of the weird pieces of machinery shown floating around is probably space debris from the junk yard that now surrounds the Earth. However, there is an interesting admission from a former astronaut about extra terrestrial life. If the USAF colonel in the second video was lying, he was pretty good at it.

I don't think the forum would accept the existence of God on such scant evidence so why accept it for UFO's. Perhaps crop circles are just more believable.....

Even though I live in a "hot spot" I've never seen anything. But I know some serious people who say they have.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOJiwS6YMtk

I should just say it is also a hot spot for hallucinogenic substence abuse.

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Originally Posted by Hurricane

I'm pretty doubtful about the validity of UFO sightings, but it'd be pretty silly to think we're the only live conscious beings out there. I'm not a believer, but I'm not a non-believer either, if that makes sense.

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Originally Posted by Lokasenna

Well, all I can say is that I spend a fair bit of time stargazing, and I've never yet seen anything up there that I can't explain.

I don't think we're alone in the Universe, but nor do I think small green men fly down in their saucers and kidnap hillbillies for a spot of friendly anal probing.

It'll be a while before I break out the tin foil hat...

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Originally Posted by The Atheist

The idea of UFOs visiting earth is laughable, given the distances involved. An alien species able to defeat light-speed and pick us out of thousands of trillions of stars & planets would probably figure out a way to send a message rather than an anonymous spaceship.

The fact that UFOlogists believe crop circles are made by aliens is a clue to the level of delusion involved in the fantasy.

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Agreed.
Considering the huge number of stars solely in our galaxy (200-400 billion) the number of galaxies only in our supercluster and the distances involved the chance of alien life getting in our little corner of the universe is very very slim.

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Originally Posted by manolia

Agreed.
Considering the huge number of stars solely in our galaxy (200-400 billion) the number of galaxies only in our supercluster and the distances involved the chance of alien life getting in our little corner of the universe is very very slim.

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Damn shame really.

Even the evidence of Rhea last week pioints to the fact that inhabitable planets must exist in reasonable quantities, so the chances of other life out there are extremely good.

Just the damned distance. Stuff Einstein!

Now this is interesting - today's NASA Picture of the Day:

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/image/1011...ell_heavey.jpg

And here's what they say about it:

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Explanation: Is that a spaceship or a cloud? Although it may seem like an alien mothership, it's actually a impressive thunderstorm cloud called a supercell. Such colossal storm systems center on mesocyclones -- rotating updrafts that can span several kilometers and deliver torrential rain and high winds including tornadoes. Jagged sculptured clouds adorn the supercell's edge, while wind swept dust and rain dominate the center. A tree waits patiently in the foreground. The above supercell cloud was photographed in July west of Glasgow, Montana, USA, caused minor damage, and lasted several hours before moving on.

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I'll admit, if I saw that bearing down on me from out of the clouds, I might think it was the Martians...

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Originally Posted by Lokasenna

Now this is interesting - today's NASA Picture of the Day:

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That is sensational.

Just goes to show that fact is more exciting than fiction.

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Originally Posted by The Atheist

Damn shame really.

Even the evidence of Rhea last week pioints to the fact that inhabitable planets must exist in reasonable quantities, so the chances of other life out there are extremely good.

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Yes for life as we know it (carbon based). If one considers the possibility of other life forms, quite different from us, the chances increase :biggrin5:

(on a side/serious note, this sounds very sci-fi but the universe is a marvelous thing..who knows)

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Originally Posted by Lokasenna

I'll admit, if I saw that bearing down on me from out of the clouds, I might think it was the Martians...

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Meh..I might think it's them Ori

I saw a UFO, that is to say I had time to study it from quite close range for many minutes.

It wasn't a 'flying saucer', it didn't have 'little green men' in it.

Nor was it a secret military project.

And it was huge.

And yes it changed my life.

Sorry - you're expecting me to go into detail. I would, but being a writer's forum you'll just say I was making it up (like everyone else) or I'm nuts (which is as may be) or that I was on drugs, have too much imagination for my own good etc (not, not)

So why did I bother to post?

It's a thread about UFO's. I saw one. Before I saw it - well, I didn't care one way or the other, and I can't even remeber which way I leant.

But I'd like you all to have the chance to experience one, a real one.

What I did was walk along a street in a suburb about 9:30 pm. I wasn't looking for it. I'm pretty sure it wasn't looking for me. In fact UFO's was the farthest thing on my mind.

And then-


They do exist...

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Originally Posted by MystyrMystyry

Sorry - you're expecting me to go into detail. I would, but being a writer's forum you'll just say I was making it up (like everyone else) or I'm nuts (which is as may be) or that I was on drugs, have too much imagination for my own good etc (not, not)

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Little point posting unless you give detail, but it's your choice.