What other people think

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Originally Posted by Dark Muse

Speaking frankly as I am want to do, I am left sometimes with the impression that you lash out against me, or some of my views becasue of your bitterness about some of the chocies you have made for yourself in your life. Perhaps because some of my ideas reflect some of your past actions or thinking it makes an easy target, or just opens a sore spot with some of your own regrets.

The way I choose to live my own life has no raffect upon you whatsoever. It is my right to do as I will as long as I don't break any laws in the process. So there is little since in being angry at me if I do not behave in a manner which you think I should.

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I don't think it is "lashing out" in the sense that you mean it. I have been through hell and back and have inner demons which are terrible beyond measure, and what you advertise as a shield, the anti-Christian pagan I am tough and no one can touch me braggadocio, I don't think it has been tested in real world terms, and I believe you are more of a good girl than you let on.

That might have been me once, but I have too many scars, and nothing can really rescue me from a certain world weariness that even unexpected success, or an even more unexpected romance, would relieve, and yes, that isn't your problem, but neither are you a minority who faces the prosecution of an unjust society.

If I were to cotintue this discorse it would make a hypocrite of me ;)

So I will make no attempt to explain or justify myself. I will close only with this.

I have made no attempts to compare myself to you, and your personal struggles, and you may perceive me and my comments however you so choose to desire.

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Originally Posted by Dark Muse

If I were to cotintue this discorse it would make a hypocrite of me ;)

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There is a modern philosopher, whose name escapes me at the moment, but I believe he is eastern, who says philosophy must inherently embrace contradiction . The cited title is the best I can do on short notice, toward further study.

Since I fully embrace hypocrisy I will shoulder it for both of us:nod:

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ll make no attempt to explain or justify myself. I will close only with this.

I have made no attempts to compare myself to you, and your personal struggles, and you may perceive me and my comments however you so choose to desire.

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This is true; however, purity of principle for its own sake is best digested with caution, and perhaps I failed to make that point using my own experiences, or using them in a more neutral fashion. It just occurred to me that maybe you could get me some sources if I can find an editor who'd go for a new age examination of paganism. I'll jot it in my notes, as I need fresh earnings in 2010.

I kind of agree with Scher on the topic of whether other people thoughts about us are our business. They are, partially, our business. I mean, sometimes other people's thoughts about what I do or how I behave may be more accurate than my own.

If we become too much obsessed with what others think about us we try to kind of change or dance to the tune of others.

Let us try to be what we are not what others want us to be.

Most of us try to sacrifice all our natures while becoming too much obsessed with others' expectations.

Our studies, businesses, careers, ways of livings, even beliefs are attuned what others are expectant of us.

And of course this is the reason why we are too much stressed.

This demands of us understanding ourselves and wherein lies our happiness without marring others.

Civilization demands of us assimilation, integration and this necessitates sacrificing some of our natural tendencies. That is why today we are distancing ourselves from our own natures.

There is too much fixations with others' businesses, and this widens a gulf between what we are and what we want to be, thus stressing out.

there is a point in your life where you have to decide what you care more about; what others think of you or what you think of yourself.
If everyone hates you does that make any worse a person?
If everyone loves you does that make you
any better a person?

Originally posted by Dark Muse:
"To be quite frankly honest the only regrets I have in my dealings with other people is there are some people that I think I was too lenient with. But being a misanthrope and not caring about what society thinks of me, does not by default mean I go around willy nilly being mean to people just for the sake of it, that in itself would be more effort than I would be willing to put into the general populace, I prefer to just be left alone, and in turn keep myself isolated as much as possible."

I agree, and couldn't have put it better myself... though you probably don't care what I think.:nod:

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Originally Posted by Apathy

I agree, and couldn't have put it better myself... though you probably don't care what I think.:nod:

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Hahahahahah ;)

:D Brilliant quote; who said it in "Flowers...? :confused: Does a misanthropist care enough about what people think to post a question about what people think about their post...:(

I have no idea who said it in flowers, if you have read my post I stated that I heard it on the radio, and the person on the radio said she got it from flowers.

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Originally Posted by isidro

If we truly do not care, we also cannot care if people truly love and appreciate us

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Extremely good point, and this is where I myself am forced to draw a line, for, although I don't believe in many, many things, I do believe in Love. I think, and maybe hypocriticaly, that just because you don't care what people think, you can still care for them and that if you care for someone you can feel a certain empathy for how they feel, and can feel 'Good' when your feelings towards them are mirrored. Also, you possess enough respect for them to be careful in the way you word things, NOT TO LIE, but to take just a miniscule amount more of tentativity.:nod:

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Originally Posted by Apathy

Extremely good point, and this is where I myself am forced to draw a line, for, although I don't believe in many, many things, I do believe in Love. I think, and maybe hypocriticaly, that just because you don't care what people think, you can still care for them and that if you care for someone you can feel a certain empathy for how they feel, and can feel 'Good' when your feelings towards them are mirrored. Also, you possess enough respect for them to be careful in the way you word things, NOT TO LIE, but to take just a miniscule amount more of tentativity.:nod:

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Of course to a certain extent we cannot afford not to care, and when it comes to love, compassion, empathy we must take care of what others have for us.

But my point here is many of our patterns of behaviors are shaped by the what others think syndrome and if we fixate too much with this we will sicken ourselves and run to negativity, surrendering therein to the expectations of others only.

Why do we post here then for instance ? Why don't we keep things for ourselves ? Is that only to share what we have with others?

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Originally Posted by caddy_caddy

Why do we post here then for instance ? Why don't we keep things for ourselves ? Is that only to share what we have with others?

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I for one post here to have intelligent conversations, also, i do not lie about what I believe and don't care whether you love or hate my beliefs. I do however, like to listen to what you think about different subjects becauase I like to learn.:nod:

completely indifferent Apathy?
Won't you feel happy and encouraged if u post a thread , a poem , a text or whatever and the LitNet said oh you are so great ., you have great ideas , oh and so and so??
At these moments we do care what the others do think of us!!
I think we don't care about what we don't like only.