yet another chance to bash a catcher in the rye! its certainly the type of book that should have a point, but i think the author, and therefore the characters, failed to deliver.
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yet another chance to bash a catcher in the rye! its certainly the type of book that should have a point, but i think the author, and therefore the characters, failed to deliver.
Do you dislike it because countless english teachers throughout the years have bored it into the ground?Quote:
Originally Posted by bounty
I'd be very interested to hear your criticism...
actually, i wasnt made to read the book during high school but i dont doubt that over the years, its common use created a sort of hype where i was expecting great things from the book. plus, ive constantly heard other people praising it. it had a lot to live up to.Quote:
Originally Posted by jcjp
but the short of it was, i couldnt find anything redeeming in the book, either in the main character (holden was more of an undifferentiated wanderer than an angst ridden anti-hero) or in the author's writing, which i found redundant and non captivating.
I really didn't get the point of The Great Gatsby or The Catcher in the Rye either. Both were rather easy to read, but after I finished, I didn't feel like I'd really gotten anything out of them.
How bout the harry potter books?
Kinda fun to read, but pretty pointless.
Yes, they are: but those aren't really novels, now are they?Quote:
Originally Posted by kevinthediltz
This thread really isn't amied at comercialized books that are written just for entertainment, becasue books like that typically are not suppose to have a deeper meaning behind the surface. It is sort of a given that they are pointless beyond thier ablity to entertain.
I think it is funny how so many people hate the book. When I read it I absolutely loved it and consider it among my favorites.Quote:
Originally Posted by bounty
King James Version :p
I can add The Lord of the Flies to my list. I was really disappointed with the ending, I was waiting for something great and it never happened, the book just ended as if the author no longer knew what to do with it.
That's precisely what JD Salinger wanted in Catcher in the Rye: he wanted you to be able to relate on a down-to-earth level with the main character, hence why he chose first person rather than the boring-ole' third most english writers have employed.Quote:
Originally Posted by bounty
As stated earlier, I found it appealing that he neither wanted to be the "hero" nor any type of angst-ridden person, he just wanted the normal, everyday life of your typical American teenager at the time but he couldn't help but see the hypocrisy in all of it.
I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree.
I would have to disagree with you there, I love Lord of the Flies. I think it is a brilliant analysis of human nature, and how our moralities, and ideals and societal norms fall apart when pressed with extreme situations. It's an ultimately cynical book, one of the reasons I like it :).Quote:
Originally Posted by Annamariah
Grapes of Wrath by Steinbeck
So...So...So...what the hell is your point?! That was my question through whole book.
Hah, I loath that novel as well. Good call.Quote:
Originally Posted by bazarov
Um, if you don't realise the point of Gatsby, you can't really have been reading it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Annamariah
It's basically sacrificing yourself for what everyone else around you can see is an empty dream. It's the Valley of Ashes for those who never got their dreams...WE can all judge Gatsby as being a bit of a stalker who should have got over her but that's easy for us to say- 'not everybody in the world has had the advantages you've had'
Catcher in The Rye doesn't have a point- it's more about your teenage misfit kinda person- who says 'phoney' too much!
Twilight is the most pointless series.
im okay with first person narrative, i read diaries for my dissertation and despite it not being the norm in higher education, i used first person in my writing.Quote:
Originally Posted by jcjp
as to what else youre saying jc---i am not unwilling to be educated about the book and the author---maybe the opportunity will present itself someday down the road...:)