We Never Went to the Moon

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03-02-2009, 05:27 AM
bazarov

I am sure USSR would see the fake in 60's; and they are still silent.

P.S. Gravity on moon is six times lesser then on Earth.
03-02-2009, 05:41 AM
wat??

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Originally Posted by BlueSkyGB

I've never laughed so hard......:lol:

Oops gotta go...Just glimpsed Bigfoot and Nessie outside ......:lol:

I always believe what I see on youtube also.......:lol::alien::lol:and as for the net...
well.....LOL

I really doubt that you even bothered to watch even one of the youtube videos the original poster linked, and your only contribution to the thread was to make an insulting and mocking post.

I am not saying I believe the OP, but still...
03-02-2009, 07:51 AM
ClaesGefvenberg

This is really quite tedious. A simple search for the original posters name will reveal a multitude of similar posts to lots of other forums. The content is much the same though: An abundance of links. Clicking those links will provide the linked sites with more traffic. Simple as that. Don't go there.

/Claes
03-02-2009, 09:52 AM
Emil Miller

As I said in a previous post, I keep an open mind on the subject.
However, there are certainly some interesting questions that remain to be answered:

1. How did they get through the van Allen belt? Given that, even at the speed they were travelling, they would have been exposed long enough to have killed them.

2. Why does some of the photographic material released by NASA show EXACTLY the same rock formations in different parts of the photos?

3. Why did Neil Armstrong flatly refuse to swear on the bible that he had walked on the moon when asked by an enquirer to do so?

Perhaps some of the forums members can explain.
03-02-2009, 09:58 AM
SleepyWitch

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Originally Posted by Brian Bean

As I said in a previous post, I keep an open mind on the subject.
However, there are certainly some interesting questions that remain to be answered:

1. How did they get through the van Allen belt? Given that, even at the speed they were travelling, they would have been exposed long enough to have killed them.

never heard of the van Allen belt before *blush*, but here's what wiki says. not that I consider wiki a 100% reliable source

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Originally Posted by wikipedia

Impact on space travel

Solar cells, integrated circuits, and sensors can be damaged by radiation. In 1962, the Van Allen belts were temporarily amplified by a high-altitude nuclear explosion (the Starfish Prime test) and several satellites ceased operation.[citation needed] Geomagnetic storms occasionally damage electronic components on spacecraft. Miniaturization and digitization of electronics and logic circuits have made satellites more vulnerable to radiation, as incoming ions may be as large as the circuit's charge. Electronics on satellites must be hardened against radiation to operate reliably. The Hubble Space Telescope, among other satellites, often has its sensors turned off when passing through regions of intense radiation.

Missions beyond low earth orbit leave the protection of the geomagnetic field, and transit the Van Allen belts. Thus they may need to be shielded against exposure to cosmic rays, Van Allen radiation, or solar flares.

An astronaut shielded by 3 mm of aluminium in an elliptic orbit passing through the radiation belt will receive about 2,500 rem (25 Sv) per year.[6]

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The outer belt consists mainly of high energy(0.1–10 MeV) electrons trapped by the Earth's magnetosphere

bleh, would that be gamma rays?
03-02-2009, 10:05 AM
SleepyWitch

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Originally Posted by bazarov

I am sure USSR would see the fake in 60's; and they are still silent.

P.S. Gravity on moon is six times lesser then on Earth.

I'm with baz. I wouldn't put it past the U.S. to fake a moon landing just to win the space race. After all the Soviet space dog (whatsname? Leika?) died a few minutes after take-off and the barking from space was taped. But the USSR would have called their bluff. I'm sure they were on the look-out for evidence that disproves an American moon landing.
03-02-2009, 10:10 AM
Virgil

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Originally Posted by SleepyWitch

I'm with baz. I wouldn't put it past the U.S. to fake a moon landing just to win the space race.

Why do you say that? What exactly have we faked that you would think it would be something we would do?
03-02-2009, 10:19 AM
Emil Miller

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Originally Posted by SleepyWitch

I'm with baz. I wouldn't put it past the U.S. to fake a moon landing just to win the space race. After all the Soviet space dog (whatsname? Leika?) died a few minutes after take-off and the barking from space was taped. But the USSR would have called their bluff. I'm sure they were on the look-out for evidence that disproves an American moon landing.

Laika died when the satellite burned up on re-entering the earth's tmosphere.
As for the former USSR calling a bluff, how would they have been able to prove anything that NASA couldn't deny anyway?
03-02-2009, 10:34 AM
SleepyWitch

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Originally Posted by Virgil

Why do you say that? What exactly have we faked that you would think it would be something we would do?

oops, sorry Virge, I didn't mean to sound anti-American. Plus, I don't think it was a fake. I wouldn't have put it past the USSR either to fake a moon landing, given the political climate of the day. But I was only speaking hypothetically.

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Originally Posted by Brian Bean

Laika died when the satellite burned up on re-entering the earth's tmosphere.

I seem to remember that DER SPIEGEL said she died a lot earlier.
03-02-2009, 11:09 AM
BlueSkyGB

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Originally Posted by wat??

I really doubt that you even bothered to watch even one of the youtube videos the original poster linked, and your only contribution to the thread was to make an insulting and mocking post.

I am not saying I believe the OP, but still...

Actually I have seen them....being a retired science teacher..
my curious nature has led me to watch these clips before..
have also watched the UFO clips and the clips on 911 and various other conspiracy type theory clips....
always been curious and willing to try and see the other side of things..
but really....:)
03-02-2009, 11:13 AM
Emil Miller

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Originally Posted by SleepyWitch

oops, sorry Virge, I didn't mean to sound anti-American. Plus, I don't think it was a fake. I wouldn't have put it past the USSR either to fake a moon landing, given the political climate of the day. But I was only speaking hypothetically.

I seem to remember that DER SPIEGEL said she died a lot earlier.

Well I wouldn't like to contradict one of my favourite magazines, but I remember when the event took place. I even bought a packet of Russian cigarettes named Laika at the Soviet exhibition held in London shortly afterwards. BBC radio reported that the dog died as I have stated.
03-02-2009, 12:53 PM
weltanschauung

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Originally Posted by Virgil

Why do you say that? What exactly have we faked that you would think it would be something we would do?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...84657963455824

also: the JFK "incident", the gulf war, weapons of mass destruction in iraq, the terrorist paranoia, area 51...
03-02-2009, 12:56 PM
Virgil

I'm leaving this insane conversation. Nuts belong with nuts.
03-02-2009, 01:00 PM
weltanschauung

yeah ok.

anyhow:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...29448192753501
03-02-2009, 02:00 PM
Tomblvd

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Originally Posted by Brian Bean

As I said in a previous post, I keep an open mind on the subject.
However, there are certainly some interesting questions that remain to be answered:

1. How did they get through the van Allen belt? Given that, even at the speed they were travelling, they would have been exposed long enough to have killed them.

That is a common misconception. The fact is that the astronauts were only in the belts a short period of time, and the walls of the CM were enough to block much of the radiation.

There is little argument to this. Literally hundreds of satellites from many different countries reside within the belts, so the amount of radiation within them is well known.

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Why does some of the photographic material released by NASA show EXACTLY the same rock formations in different parts of the photos?

Could you give some links that show this? I'm not quite sure what you mean by "rock formations".

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3. Why did Neil Armstrong flatly refuse to swear on the bible that he had walked on the moon when asked by an enquirer to do so?

Because the man that "asked" him, Bart Sibrel (the same man that was punched in the face by Buzz Aldrin), tresspassed on his property in order to get access to him.

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