Blame the media

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Originally Posted by TeeJay12513

haha i know i was just listing things off, and I know its not a reason. However, a reason is that parents who have raised kids from day one(no matter their social class) are telling kids to do what they do in regards to the good things that they do. The problem with this 'monkey see monkey do' teaching style is that kids follow the bad things aswell, sometimes as just plain ignorance to that they shouldant be doing it, or using the 'oh my parents do it so why shouldnt I' way of thinking even while they know its wrong. Children really need to be taught that they cant trust everything they see/hear, whether it be from peers, parents, adults, or even teachers. This may lead to another rebellious way of thinking, but in the end the world will be better for it I believe.

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I agree. Trust leads only to blind faith in people and mental toughness must be encourage to sepparete ourselves from the flock.

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Originally Posted by Bakiryu

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I agree. Trust leads only to blind faith in people and mental toughness must be encourage to sepparete ourselves from the flock.

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I agree too. I think everyone should be able to do that and I see what Tee-Jay means, about the parents. I guess kids, when they grow up, are able to decide the kind of attitude they like and the kind they don't. Kids are not necessary the mirror of their parents.

Well all this may be true, why hasent it been achieved yet? We couldant have been the first ones to think about this.

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Originally Posted by Pensive

Generalizing whether the values of our youth are decreasing (rather than increasing when compared to other previous generations) I think is quite difficult, just my opinion.

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I agree.

Anyway where i find fault with the media is that they are introducing false models for young people. But still, not only media do this ;)

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Originally Posted by Bakiryu

Many people blame the media for the behavior of humanity and the mental changes and devolution we are going through now. But are we right?

Is the media to be blamed for the decreasing values of our youth and the attempt to fit into its portrayal of humanity?

Or are we, the person to blame, in our stupidity by blindly following other's misconceptions?

Rant on.

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Haven't the youths values always been decreasing? Yeesh, I mean,older people have thought that the youth is going down the drain since ancient times. Nothing particularly new about it, is there?

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Originally Posted by Taliesin

Haven't the youths values always been decreasing? Yeesh, I mean,older people have thought that the youth is going down the drain since ancient times. Nothing particularly new about it, is there?

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yes, but it wasn't as bad as it is today. older people were right but the decrease on values was slow, now 'tis taking leaps and bounds.

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Originally Posted by Bakiryu

Many people blame the media for the behavior of humanity and the mental changes and devolution we are going through now. But are we right?

Is the media to be blamed for the decreasing values of our youth and the attempt to fit into its portrayal of humanity?

Or are we, the person to blame, in our stupidity by blindly following other's misconceptions?

Rant on.

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Bakiryu , That is very good Idea to discuss ,
so Thank you for starting such discussion.
I've to tell you that Media don't care so much with Youth or Values , but it only care with MONEY ,
So You Won't Gain a lot of benefit matters from Media .
Also we couldn't blame humanity alone because simply who use Media is human ,
For me I blame both of them ,
Why we have to believe things we are sure that its shown for benefits ,
and Media , who run on that Media , human , people .
Why they don't have some MERCY and show only the truth and the good Members in Life ?
I blame Media , and every one TRUTH with every thing by Media.
Thanks again,:)

Hm think on this, each decade the human race becomes smarter (generally), and we advance. Yet as the decades pass, our values become less and less. Could the two be related? Could our higher intelligence be showing us what we couldant see about ourselves 10 years ago?

I saw "devolution" in the first post, where is Lily? :p

We forget that humans are the ones who created "the media", perhaps we blame it because it is the ultimate reflection of us. As a society, we pretty much choose what is represented and presented to us via technology and entertainment. I mean, as individuals we could disagree with it, but it isn't a battle of "People against the media", as it is more "people against themselves".
We shouldn't be targeting the media for change, we should target the actual issues in society, not how they are being presented.

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Originally Posted by dramasnot6

I saw "devolution" in the first post, where is Lily? :p

We forget that humans are the ones who created "the media", perhaps we blame it because it is the ultimate reflection of us. As a society, we pretty much choose what is represented and presented to us via technology and entertainment. I mean, as individuals we could disagree with it, but it isn't a battle of "People against the media", as it is more "people against themselves".
We shouldn't be targeting the media for change, we should target the actual issues in society, not how they are being presented.

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Exactly, and a people verus people argument of course ends in the end of humankind. Respectivly.

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Originally Posted by Bakiryu

yes, but it wasn't as bad as it is today. older people were right but the decrease on values was slow, now 'tis taking leaps and bounds.

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I'm still not convinced. How are you guaging this? Is it actually taking leaps and bounds or does it just seem like it because of the media? When in history has the media been so prevasive?

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Originally Posted by papayahed

I'm still not convinced. How are you guaging this? Is it actually taking leaps and bounds or does it just seem like it because of the media? When in history has the media been so prevasive?

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well, when you read about people in the past it never was as bad as it is now and the influence of the media was nonexistent, since there really wasn't any media. but just looking at what people read and watch now, you can plainly see the decreasing values of our society and youth.

Look at Hollywood, there's been drug addicts, and debauchery going on since the industry began. The only difference between then and now is that now the media is there to film it all. And that is why I'm saying its hard to guage whether the society/kids have less values today then in the past.

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Originally Posted by papayahed

Look at Hollywood, there's been drug addicts, and debauchery going on since the industry began. The only difference between then and now is that now the media is there to film it all. And that is why I'm saying its hard to guage whether the society/kids have less values today then in the past.

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yes, but before people didn't actually follow much of holliwood's examples but now, teen pregnancies are increasing, gang activity is climbing up the charts, children are internalizing what before was accessible only to few.

You haven't provided any proof that values are declining more so now then in the past only to say the media puts it on TV. The media is in the business of sensationalizing events to make money so is it a true representation of society? There are 300 million people in the US, how many are on TV?