You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.Quote:
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Pam69ur, I still don't see any argument to cease and desist using mathematics. Sorry.
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You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.Quote:
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Pam69ur, I still don't see any argument to cease and desist using mathematics. Sorry.
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Yes, nihilists believe that all epistimological views are meaningless, including their own
you miss the point of dean even this views is meaningless
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2 is in fact, a real number. An imaginary number would be the square root of a negative. Two isn't even an approximation, it's an exact value. Still waiting to see a contradiction.
and if an irrational number never terminates how can a number that never ends exist on a line that does end-contradiction
u say an irratuional number exist so show me if you cant tell me if an irational number is real or imaginary then you cant tell me if 2 is real or imaginary
so if 2 is real then is an irational number real then show me one not an aproximation but a real existent one on a real line
Just because it's long doesn't mean it's big. Your logic is flawed - cuppa has pointed to pi without issues on a terminating line (segment).
i am not saying not use maths -but just see that there is a mystery as to how it works when it aint logfically true but entials ie ends in or collapses into meaninglessness or self-contradiction
contradiction = a number that never ends existing on a real line that ends
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I don't believe you know the definitions of the words 'real' and 'imaginary' when applied to mathematics. 2 is most defitlely a real number. Imaginary numbers are the square roots of negatives. If you think that 2 is the square root of a negative number, there is something seriously wrong with your counting.Quote:
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Not that that has anything to do with the question.
is an irational number real then show me one not an aproximation but a real existent one on a real line
contradiction = a number that never ends existing on a real line that ends
u cant tell me if an irrational number is real ie it exists on a real line there for you dont now what 2 is -if you cant tell me what an irrational number is then you dont really know what a number is all you can say is look 2 fingers but you cant say look an irrationbal number
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you miss the point of dean even this views is meaningless
That is exactly, exactly what I just said.
no you said a nihlist belives all epistemological views are meaningless
but he makes one exception his own -show me a nihilist philosipher who says what dean says with a quote
even nietzsce beleved in perspectivism which was his absolute epistemology
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Yes I can. I just did. I just showed you phi on a very real and very finite number line. 2+2=4 does not involve any irrational numbers, so it was unnecesary anyway. For your point to hold, you need 2+2=4 to reduce to absurdity, not to misuderstand the meaning of an irrational number.Quote:
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No, I said:Quote:
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Yes, nihilists believe that all epistimological views are meaningless, including their own
It's entirely irrelivant to this discussion and I'm not particularly interested in persuing it. If you are, here would be a good place to start.Quote:
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Based on what I've read so far, the numbers aren't the only irrational entities on this thread.
nihlists always believe their negations are based upon a privilged view
dean says even this view is meaningless
dean is unque in being the first to claim eevery view every epistemology every thesis and its anithesis every proiduct of human thinking even meaninlesnes and nihlism entail meaninglessness
contradiction how can a number that never ends exist on a real line -if you cant see that contradiction then there is no pioint debating even the greeks who discovered irrational numbers saw that such that and they decieded to not call irrational numbers numbers at all
Who was it that said that "Those who refuse to see are no better off than those who cannot see"?
Look at the real line I just showed you. The middle point is an irrational number (specifically, one plus the square root of five divided by two). It exists. The line exists. The line is finite. There are an infinite number of geometric points on a finite line, because geometric points don't have any length. It isn't a contradiction, you just don't understand it.Quote:
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In any case, the statement 2+2=4 does not contain any irrational numbers!
u can point to any thing on a line and say that is an irrational number
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an irational number dont end sio you cant point to its ennd there fore you can point to it
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contradiction how can a number that never ends exist on a real line -if you cant see that contradiction then there is no pioint debating even the greeks who discovered irrational numbers saw that such that and they decieded to not call irrational numbers numbers at all
if you can tell me what an irrational numbers is-as the greeks could see -then u cant tell me what a numner like 2 is -and dont just say look 2 fingers
thus with out knowing what numbers are mathematicians dont really know what they are talking about
how can they make things work with out knowing what they are doing
as billyjack pointed out
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An irrational number is one with an infinite number of non-repeating digits. They typically represent such values as the area of a perfect circle, which do not occur in real life. *Points on a number line to a spot slightly to the right of 3.14*. There's pi.
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i think this quote points toward what the creator of this thread is saying. mathematics had to create things that dont exist in order to make their system work. thereby, and tell me if i am wrong here pam69ur, a system that needs things that dont really exist is a contradiction.
as billyjack pointed out
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Originally Posted by cuppajoe_9 View Post
An irrational number is one with an infinite number of non-repeating digits. They typically represent such values as the area of a perfect circle, which do not occur in real life. *Points on a number line to a spot slightly to the right of 3.14*. There's pi.
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i think this quote points toward what the creator of this thread is saying. mathematics had to create things that dont exist in order to make their system work. thereby, and tell me if i am wrong here pam69ur, a system that needs things that dont really exist is a contradiction.