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Originally posted by simon
Desdemona was and unknowing, ignorant lovesick sap and Juliet was an obsessed child, good characters but not women to model yourselfe after.
If all lovers (men and women) were like her, imagine how much better our life would be.
Desdemona or Juliet?
Sorry, I thought it was understood. I meant Desdemona, obviously.
Better how? Because women would be pathetic creatures that fail to notice the obvious? And that's not to say that Othello was any better, he never even considered to ask Desedemona. By the way I'm not ragging on Will, it's becuase his characterization is so good that we can analyze and attack the nature of the characters. But I guess you could say that Desdemona was strong in her innosence and Juliet in her faith.
I think Emilia was the only decent female character in Othello - at least she stood up to men
I forgot about Emilia, she is a decent female and look what she got for it: death.
Emilia is decent and Desdemona is "a pathetic creature that fails to notice the obvious"??? :confused: I'm wondering if we read the same book...
Shakespeare is not the only love creation writter. But, he is one of them. I wish I could visit his dreamland and grab some fireflies of romance .
Actually you CAN visit Shakespeare's dreamland. Read some Plutarch and other historians that he had access to. The majority of his plays are based on others' historical writings. Some are what we would consider strait up plagerism today. I think the only plot that he really dreamed (interesting use of languege) is A Midsummer Night's Dream. Sorry Ava, but He hardly had an ounce of creativity in his bones.
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Originally posted by IWilKikU
Actually you CAN visit Shakespeare's dreamland. Read some Plutarch and other historians that he had access to. The majority of his plays are based on others' historical writings. Some are what we would consider strait up plagerism today. I think the only plot that he really dreamed (interesting use of languege) is A Midsummer Night's Dream. Sorry Ava, but He hardly had an ounce of creativity in his bones.
I dunno. I never realli read about Shakespeare's works. He's not my stlye. I'm the person who hardly read. I'm not talented in literature. But, once an author's mind sparkles with mine, I read the book for what it tells me. Never for the literature.
Avalive, I'm confused as to how you can separate the book from the lit?Quote:
Originally posted by Avalive
I read the book for what it tells me. Never for the literature.
I don't know. I know it sounds unreasonable and ribiculous. The feeling is kinda abstract. Honestly,I don't love literature myself. The real book is not created for Nobel Prize, the entity is not for literature. There must be link between lit and books. Obviously. However, it's not all. I remember somebody says something which
sparkles with my mind:
"True poets don't write
Their thoughts with a pen...
They release the ink that flows
From within their heart. "
~ by Anonymous ~
We are not in any debates. We are just sharing the feelings. Cuz my point won't stand. I'm always ridiculous. I guess u are right, Amuse,I basically nod for those normal attitudes, but they are powerless in my world.
well, it depends on what you mean by creativty. some authors are gifted with plots, some with character development, some with other worlds. I doubt there are many writers who are great at all of them. I myself can create whole worlds easily, but ask me to think of a plot and I draw a blank! ;)Quote:
Originally posted by IWilKikU
Actually you CAN visit Shakespeare's dreamland. Read some Plutarch and other historians that he had access to. The majority of his plays are based on others' historical writings. Some are what we would consider strait up plagerism today. I think the only plot that he really dreamed (interesting use of languege) is A Midsummer Night's Dream. Sorry Ava, but He hardly had an ounce of creativity in his bones.
that's what i thought. i just wanted to see the bones within. :)Quote:
Originally posted by Avalive
I don't know. I know it sounds unreasonable and ribiculous. The feeling is kinda abstract.
well put.Quote:
"True poets don't write
Their thoughts with a pen...
They release the ink that flows
From within their heart. "
~ by Anonymous ~
if?? you felt i was looking for one, no. i simply prefer the normal blended with the mystical. one without the other confuses this little tree called me.Quote:
We are not in any debates.
peace. :)
WHAT???????????????????????????????????? :confused: :mad:Quote:
Originally posted by IWilKikU
The majority of his plays are based on others' historical writings. Some are what we would consider strait up plagerism today. I think the only plot that he really dreamed (interesting use of languege) is A Midsummer Night's Dream. He hardly had an ounce of creativity in his bones.
Who are you and what have you done to IWilKikU?