NTHS - Animal Farm

Ok, that makes perfect since. So boxer represents the working class of Russia, driven by his own ambitions of a peaceful future. And Napoleon fears him, only by his sheer numbers and strength. And Boxer follows Napoleon because he thinks that in doing so, he is promised a better future, not because he understands the principals of the commandments. Ok, then why dose Eric Blair describe him as loosing strength or growing weaker in the book animal farm? What is happening in Russian history (because I really don’t know the history very well) to make him write of boxers slowly dwindling strength? Are the people dieing?

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So who is Eric Blair??? and why did they kill Boxer? it seems like for all the work that he did for th farm they would let him retire peacefully....I think that there is foreshadowing in the beginning that the way they are treated by the humans is foreshadowing for whats to come.

;) Hannah

Going back to Katie's comment. Maybe he's saying that it was too late for them to realize what was happening to them. The takeover was finished; noone could do anything anymore. If Boxer went down, then even if they realized it they wouldn't have the strength needed to overthrow Napolean.

Eric Blair is the ACTUAL man that wrote this book. George Orwell is just the pen name. It says it on the very first page of the book. I'm pretty sure he decided to have a pen name because all the ideas and characters were real.

what i dont get is why use a pen name if you say your real name on the first page it takes away the point.........stupid question how old was boxer?


P.S. I like your poem

Well a while ago, before women were allowed to write and publish books, pen names were used a lot. for example J.K. Rowling. If you remember, for a bit, no one knew if she was a man or woman. I dont know why it says his name on the first page. I think it's because this book is a re-published edition of the original Animal Farm. I think Boxer was twelve or just about to turn it, because he was soon to retire.

p.s. thanx ;)

but even so its weird to say it the very beginning of the book and I wonder what his reason was for using a pen name?

How did the pigs loose their snouts?

I'm not sure either. Did the pigs actually change to humans, or did their actions seem like humans? I think soom forshadowing of when the pigs become human is when Napolean meets with Whymper and the neighboring farm owners constantly, but only meets with the animals to give them orders. :(
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I find it really weird that he talked to humans more than the animals of his farm for all he knew squealer could be plotting against him

Back to charlottes Question, here's a thought. ok, lets say that the humans, Mr. Jones and the surrounding farmers of England represent one kind of governmental leaders. They are selfish and lap themselves in luxury while giving the animals only what they need to survive. Then major and the animals come in together to in rebellion to create themselves a better place to live. Soon the pigs become selfish and changing rules around to sute their own fancies. Be for you know it, they become just like the humans, treating the other animals as lowerley figures and shutting them out. They have changed the government around, what was once a perfect system has been crushed. It is now exactly the same as the humans government. The government system transformed in to the other, …….. sorry, I hope that made some scene. :idea: :D

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answering charlotte's question about the pigs:
the way i took the pigs situation, it seemed to me that the pigs did not actually turn into humans but were mearly acting like humans. i dislike the pigs and dogs in the end of the book...i have a question.....why were the dogs Napoleon's gaurds? yes it is true that the dogs were strong (or so it seemed) but why the dogs? Did Napoleon choose the dogs because he knew that they would not try to overthrow him? :eek2:

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:ladysman:-hehehe this 1 is pretty funny!!!!!!!:D

to answere kristens questions about the dogs

i think the pigs picked the dogs because at the begining of the book it said that they just had a new litter of puppys so the pigs could train them from birth making sure tat they wouldnt queston them or over throw them

Even though Napolean trained the dogs, what if they turned against him for some reason, they could have made the farm theirs. :idea: Katie yours made perfect sense so the pigs can represent our government who can make decisions that we may not like. So greed turned the pigs into just what they hated most, or did they always like the humans and just want the farm for themselves?
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