The Point of no Return

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Originally Posted by RDraconis

Yeah, I know. It's like... um... Okey. She gets there, finds out Erik's there and then... nothing for awhile. Then she goes to try and find him. And then she does and it's like, his minion goes and tries to kill the kid. Then, instead, Christine dies?! And then it's all Ok because teh kid takes of the mask and is all "Aww! It's not that bad!" and everyone's happy and the kid lives with his real daddy and I don't remember what happened with Raoul- but I'm sure it was happy. >_<
It leaves you sitting there going 'OK.... WTF? Did that just happen?'

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I know! She's just sitting there, talking to him in the Mirror House as if he didn't kidnap her, drive her practically insane, and almost kill her fiancee. And the part where Pierre decides to live with Erik is the worst. I mean, he had just seen him shoot a man in the forehead. And isn't this supposed to be a CONTINUATION of Leroux's book? HOW again is Erik his father?? (Yes...I know...Kay. But this is LEROUX.) Yeah, Christine couldn't even see past Erik's deformity in Leroux, so I doubt a twelve year-old kid could....Oh, and of course he's perfect-looking, too.

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Originally Posted by Wandering_Child

I know! She's just sitting there, talking to him in the Mirror House as if he didn't kidnap her, drive her practically insane, and almost kill her fiancee. And the part where Pierre decides to live with Erik is the worst. I mean, he had just seen him shoot a man in the forehead. And isn't this supposed to be a CONTINUATION of Leroux's book? HOW again is Erik his father?? (Yes...I know...Kay. But this is LEROUX.) Yeah, Christine couldn't even see past Erik's deformity in Leroux, so I doubt a twelve year-old kid could....Oh, and of course he's perfect-looking, too.

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I dunno, apparently while she was at his house the second time he raped her? Or the reason she was banging her head so hard is the realization of what she did finally dawned on her. :lol:
I am, of course, joking. But it's the only thing I can figure... ^^;

Besides, if Pierre doesn't end up living with his daddy- it won't be a happy happy ending! XD

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Originally Posted by RDraconis

I dunno, apparently while she was at his house the second time he raped her? Or the reason she was banging her head so hard is the realization of what she did finally dawned on her. :lol:
I am, of course, joking. But it's the only thing I can figure... ^^;

Besides, if Pierre doesn't end up living with his daddy- it won't be a happy happy ending! XD

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Grr! The worst thing is his opera. It takes him his whole life to write Don Juan, and took him, what, two months (?) to write Angel of Shiloh or whatever the crap it's called. Don Juan is crap, but of course everyone loves Shiloh.

um, i need to correct u something, Erik was singing, "All I ask of you", but he never reached "You."

Christine ripped off Erik's mask because she loved him very much, she didn't even care how does he look like anymore, she just wanted to assure that she loved Erik deeply in her heart by looking at Erik's real deformed face(because she wasn't sure if she loved him, she also loved Raoul). She did it, and she found out that she truly loved him. While the audiance were screaming, she didn't react to any thing. Her eyes were simply filled with tears, i did not see any fears in her eyes. I know she loved him, deep down her heart, she had always loved him... That's TRUE LOVE.

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Originally Posted by emilysweety

Christine ripped off Erik's mask because she loved him very much, she didn't even care how does he look like anymore, she just wanted to assure that she loved Erik deeply in her heart by looking at Erik's real deformed face(because she wasn't sure if she loved him, she also loved Raoul). She did it, and she found out that she truly loved him. While the audiance were screaming, she didn't react to any thing. Her eyes were simply filled with tears, i did not see any fears in her eyes. I know she loved him, deep down her heart, she had always loved him... That's TRUE LOVE.

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STOP TALKING ABOUT THE MOVIE!
In the book she took it off ONCE, he spazzed out and to make sure he didn't kill her she burned the mask as a "eh, eh? See? It's Ok... Can I go home to the guy who really loves me yet?" move, which she later told Raoul about. She pitied him but wanted to escape him; the only reason she didn't leave right then was so he could hear her sing again. Not because she loved him. The movie was so... very... OFF.

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Originally Posted by RDraconis

STOP TALKING ABOUT THE MOVIE!
In the book she took it off ONCE, he spazzed out and to make sure he didn't kill her she burned the mask as a "eh, eh? See? It's Ok... Can I go home to the guy who really loves me yet?" move, which she later told Raoul about. She pitied him but wanted to escape him; the only reason she didn't leave right then was so he could hear her sing again. Not because she loved him. The movie was so... very... OFF.

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HALLELUJAH! AMEN! WOOT! *ahem* That's my input there...

I think it was an act of betrayl. (or maybe, thought just occured to me,) Raoul and the others told her to do it, as part of thier plan. But, overall, I think she commited the ultimate act of betrayl by ripping his mask off in front of the entire opera house like that.
I don't blame him for being angry. If I had to wear a mask, I'd be mad if somebody just ripped it off like that.
P.G.7.

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Originally Posted by Phangirl7

I think it was an act of betrayl. (or maybe, thought just occured to me,) Raoul and the others told her to do it, as part of thier plan. But, overall, I think she commited the ultimate act of betrayl by ripping his mask off in front of the entire opera house like that.
I don't blame him for being angry. If I had to wear a mask, I'd be mad if somebody just ripped it off like that.

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I agree with that. The only other time she took it off he basically threw her across the room and went into an angry, self-pitying rage. I don't think doing the exact same thing in front of a GIANT AUDIENCE is really an act of love.

If anything, it revealed to everyone what hte phantom really was. Without his mask, he loses a lot of the mystery that makes people fear him. He's not a phantom, he's not a ghost, he's a man. And people are much less afraid of a man.