What is love?

Well to be honest lad, I'd say your bird was a bit of a cow since she bwould have prefered a BMW to you ... although there is another thought that comes to mind. Perhaps she wasn't reffering to the car make BMW but what younger kids like to laugh at.

To be honest, love for me is just a bad memory of a girl who thought I had a small penis because she was feeling in the wrong area. Me and my friends laugh about it now of course, but at the time it wasn't exactly fun.

Ah well. It be reet.

PS could anyone recommend me any other ace poets since I've got into it and I'd say William Blake is my fav, but was wondering if there were any similar ones that people know. Try n email me cos I don't want to take up King Aragon's thingy-bobbins

What is love? What a good question...

In my opinion. the number of true answers is unlimited, because it's all in the eye of the beholder. Basically, it is a chemical reaction, of course, but that is not a very romantic way of describing it :rolleyes:

I suppose it's a little bit like life itself. Sometimes you need to roll with the punches, and at other times it's all going your way.

Myself? I consider myself lucky. I met the missus some 24 years ago.

/Claes

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Originally Posted by Problem Child

Well to be honest lad, I'd say your bird was a bit of a cow since she bwould have prefered a BMW to you ... although there is another thought that comes to mind. Perhaps she wasn't reffering to the car make BMW but what younger kids like to laugh at.

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I try not to blame her. She is one year older than me, which means she is graduating this semester and i will be one years later. maybe this is not a very big deal in western countries. but i think this is in china. China is going crazy, with all the development and reform. everybody is looking for money.
our religion, is no longer Confucianism or buddhism. Maybe they are still dominant in our living style. But the thought pattern changed, the philosophy changed, the attitude changed. now, money is the only thing that matters. not only the business men are making money, but doctors, professors, teacher, scientists as well. everybody.
However, not everybody has a fair chance. you have chane to struggle for your fortune, yet some many people don't even have to make money. they just use authority to get money.
as the disparity between the poor the the rich intensifies. the children of the poor are still poor, cause they can not afford education. And they can not get free meal like the rich's children. if you see a modern woman driveing a BMW, you will probably want, before i can get a job in Merril Lynch, the fastest way to have a BMW ofr my girl friend, ex-girl friend, is to marry a rich man, or you don't even need to marry him, if you know what i mean. these kinds of things are going on like cazy in Chinese universities.
Once, a friend of mine, who is half chinese, half American and born in Germany, asked me why in china all the agly men can get all the pretty girls. my answer was, unfortunately, some agly men happen to be rich men.
hope my country will be better off.
Pray we can be rich both materialistically and spiritrually.
My English is not as good as your guys'. If you don't understand me on some points, just treat them as jokes.
world peace. No starvation. no war between Iran and USA. no between mainland China and Taiwan. No war between China and Japan. no war between Israel and Palestine. pray.

I understand your english, Aragorn. I'm sure it's a stressful time in your country. Transition is a difficult thing, but once things settle down, I'm sure your lives will be better. Hold on to your beliefs while striving to improve your life and that of your family. I agree with what as been said. A woman who is only interested in a BMW is not worth it. Find an old fashion girl who will appreciate you.

Love is like a good game of chess, you don't think about the moves in the game, nor do you think what you should do, you feel it in your brain, you feel the moves, the thoughts, and the words, as if they were in your very soul.

Love is more than sex, more than material, and more the life, love is an intermixing of stimulus, that you can taste, smell, hear, see, and feel all at once, and you know is intrinsicly present, like a gear in a machine flawlessly connecting, but in the soul.

It is the most unique sensation in the universe, and is so binding, that if it is ever damaged, the chances of recovering the feeling are very poor. Like it is said that only in life does an artist paint the defining masterpiece of his works, so is it true for love.

When I'm in love, I'd be happy living in a cardboard box with a guy.

For me love is both emotion and action. Just like faith without works is dead, love without action is dead. If you say you love someone, but do nothing to demonstrate it or do the opposite, then your lips lie. If you act "as if" you love someone, obediently following what one should do in such circumstances, then you're a glaring hypocrite.

Behavior naturally springs from the heart of the true lover. A heart bursting with adoration has no other choice but to express itself through praise, through selfless consideration of the other, etc.

I don't believe I shall ever know this love from another, but I know it exists because I have it.

i can't say anything for i do not believe in love. i know i shall love someday but i don't believe in it.

Love is a verb.
It is not some ethereal, undescribable, unattainable emotion floating in the aether.
The connection between people comes from attraction, physical, emotional, intellectual...
Whatever it is you find attracive in a person.
Of course, there is also the ideals of protection, caring, faith, opneness and all the other aspects that make two people attracted to each other.

Love, on the other hand, is simply an action.
It is treating the person you care with honor and respect.
It is being honest, straight-forward and earning the trust that someone has decided to place in you.
It is being patient, kind and supportive.

"But he loves me."...
When I hear that half of me feels horribly sad and the other half gets viciously angry.
If he did, there would never be a "But" in front of that!

Love is not an excuse, a tool or a damned weapon.
It is not a commodity.
It is not anything but simple respectful treatment for the person you appreciate, desire and value.

' need '

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Originally Posted by jackyyyy

' need '

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Really?

Need, in my opinion, leads simply to desperation and obsession, not love.
If you truly love someone your desire for them to be happy, with or without you, transcends and surpasses your "need" for them.
You would not only willingly allow them to go find their happiness elsewhere, without you, but you would do so with a genuine gladness for them.

Yes, I was being quick for sure, and I apologize for my attempt to condense above comments.

a need to give
a need to take
a need to share
a need to not need (maybe)

Something that makes us do, feel, want, not want, react.. or, does not make us do, feel, want, not want, react.. a gerzillion things.. something. So I don't know its confining the state and condition. The word (to me) is open ended, not really defining anything, however always agreeing with the above.

Ahhhhh.
I see.
I took your post as saying
"I love him/her" = "I need him/her"

It makes more sense to me now.
Thanks.

aye, and I just woke up.. I am seeing the noun.

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Originally Posted by Aragorn

does love exist? if it exists, then what is it like?
my girl freind left me yesterday. she said she's out to look for a rich man and she said if i could give her a BMW right now, she would come back right now.
we have been together for two years.
really? two years' loving can not go beyond a BMW? :confused:

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Don't be confused.. its the curse of the richman to be straddled with such a fickle minded woman.. and a blessing to the poorman that he is left to move along and meet the right one. She ain't worth a ball bearing on that BMW. My humble advice because I don't know what love is.. don't go looking for it, it will find you.

that is beautiful jackyy. You sure you aren't a therapist? Unique therapist that can entertain truly psychotic clients with your party knees tricks to help them feel centred and happy once more. :lol:

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Originally Posted by one_raven

Love is a verb.
It is not some ethereal, undescribable, unattainable emotion floating in the aether.
The connection between people comes from attraction, physical, emotional, intellectual...
Whatever it is you find attracive in a person.
Of course, there is also the ideals of protection, caring, faith, opneness and all the other aspects that make two people attracted to each other.

Love, on the other hand, is simply an action.
It is treating the person you care with honor and respect.
It is being honest, straight-forward and earning the trust that someone has decided to place in you.
It is being patient, kind and supportive.

"But he loves me."...
When I hear that half of me feels horribly sad and the other half gets viciously angry.
If he did, there would never be a "But" in front of that!

Love is not an excuse, a tool or a damned weapon.
It is not a commodity.
It is not anything but simple respectful treatment for the person you appreciate, desire and value.

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You express yourself with passion and uncompromising self-assurance. I fully understand what you say but wonder what you make of the following by Alice Munro. It’s closer to the experience of love in my bruised and fractured world. Is it not love?

“If we had been older we would certainly have hung on, haggled over the price of reconciliation, explained and justified and perhaps forgiven, and carried this into the future with us, but as it was we were close enough to childhood to believe in the absolute seriousness and finality of some fights, unforgivability of some blows. We had seen in each other what we could not bear, and we had no idea that people do see that, and go on, and hate and fight and try to kill each other, various ways, then love some more.”