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Peeeow! Peeeow! Peeeeow! Good points well made Regit - and everyone else of course. Sounds like you're as concerned with the aesthetics of death as the young Prince himself! You read Fintan O' Tooles essay Hamlet: Dying As An Art? I think you'd like it.
Will definitely consider it after my exams!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinaski
No, not so much death as with love.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chinaski
Ay, that you have. Thank you.Quote:
Originally Posted by RobinHood3000
yes Reg that was beautiful. I have a friend who lives with a very abusive husband,has had for years. She had four sons -all who begged her over and over to just take them and leave the father. For some reason she found she always went back to him, she believed in covenant, so she held on until the boys were men.But their despair and rage at the father didn't go away. They kept begging their mother but she couldn't find the strength.Once she did move away and start her own business but the husband wooed her back and continued the horror.Well son number one was found hanging in the attic one day. The next year, son number two was found dead in his car, deliberate axphysiation by gas. She came to see me and I held her in her arms. She was shunned because of their suicides.Was she to blame? They found no more joy in living because their mother existed and did not live. Her mind was shattered and she did not make wise choices. their minds were shattered and they did not make wise choices. The mind is very complex and no one can judge another. As I have said before I was stolen from my Jewish mother and raised by two horrifyingly abuse people that put me in hospital more times than I like to think about.But I truly loved the man and woman just the same- a simple child's love. When she committed suicide well her son and I were alone in the house, 13 and 11-the man looked at me and said "if only you would not have been born none of this would have happened. I know that my mind stopped temporarily at those words. I went into the medicine cabinet of a lady I was sent to live with and I took all her heart medication and sleeping pills. I could not think. I just heard those words. I had no option in my mind because I loved the man and I was the cause he said of his woe. I calmly took the pills and felt my heart go slower and slower. But then it was as if two hands grabbed me and stood me up after a while and I somehow got into the woman's bedroom and coming to my senses in a strange clarity whispered"help me" I woke up weeks later and it took a year to recover. I never wanted to or tried again to do that no matter how terrible my life became. But I wasn't myself. You cannot judge a person's state of mind in those electric moments.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElizabethSewall
The woman with the two dead sons-the priests had a funeral service for both adn blessed them even though it is a sin in the Catholic church to do that. They in the end where not judged/so on this basis I cannot fault Juliet or her romeo.
Just to let u guys know ur timelines wrong. Romeo was banished. Juliet weeped over that, her parents thought it was because of Tybalts death. Juliet went to see the Friar and said she was going to kill her self, however the Friar had a plan that she would take a potion to make her appear dead, she would be placed in her families tomb and the Friar would send a messanger to go get Romeo and bring him back to Juliet, they would then escape to Mantua together. However Romeo's servant went to tell Romeo that Juliet was dead because he had no clue about the plan. Romeo bought poison, and went to see Juliet. When Romeo got to the tomb he saw that Juliet was dead and killed himself. Seconds later the Friar went to get Juliet to take her to his cell until Romeo was notified. When he got there Juliet awoke from her 42 hr comma and saw Romeo dead. The Guards came and the Friar left and Juliet would not come with him. Juliet then took a dagger and put it through her chest.
Nobody seems to have noticed that Juliet would not have had to marry Paris if she did not kill herself, because by that stage Paris was dead. Juliet could have just gone back to her life. The ultimate irony is that Juliet did not know that Romeo had killed Paris when she was making that decision - she thought dying or marrying him were her only options.