Thank you Pendragon. I surely have (and will continue to) learned alot from you :nod:
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Thank you Pendragon. I surely have (and will continue to) learned alot from you :nod:
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Originally Posted by Pendragon
Thanks, sub. I had to learn a lot of things the hard way before I learned how to share things and actually help instead of hinder people. And that comes from Above, not from me. I'm just a sinner saved by grace. God bless. :angel:Quote:
Originally Posted by subterranean
I find the idea of sin to be a huge display of hypocrisy.
Some religious people say "God has a plan," "God knows what we are going to do and its OK," and then retreat into hypocrisy by using the term "sin" and rail the "sinner." If she is a child or a woman, to beat or whip her (whipping is prevalent in the Middle Ages to 1800's, beating is prevalent in a lot of isolated, pious communities and in abusive homes). Abuse in the name of God based on a double standard. Religious authorities sure know how to play their cards right. The popes of the middle ages used to hire prostitutes and sometimes marry them, and I find that the child molestation by modern priests directly mirrors the behavior of the Popes of the middle ages. Sin? Who sins? Why, only the common folk (everyday believers) who are at the cold mercy of corrupt religious authorities!
You may have noticed that I described myself as just "a sinner saved by grace." Yet, I am a Minister, have been since 1982, have been an Associate Pastor, an Evanglist, and a Pastor. None of this makes me one bit better than anyone else. Do I sin? Paul says "For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God!" That includes me! If I got up this morning and put my feet on the floor, I did, said, or thought something improper, for I am human, not a God. I have to ask forgiveness everyday, why should I think myself above another man or woman? No one is ever turned away from my door, nor do I change my sermon because of who walks in. If I believe that it's what God would have me say, then He knew who was coming. It's pathetic to deliberatly bate a person who has come to service by jumping on them just because they came in. Who am I to judge them? I am supposed to help not hinder. I'll close before I get to preaching on here, this is a discussion. God bless. :angel:Quote:
Originally Posted by MiSaNtHrOpE
Sin only exists within the psyche of religion. Were one to exist without any concept whatsoever of God, or the difference between “good” and “evil.” Then Sin would not exist, one action would have the same “moral” repercussions as another.
Here is a conversation I had with a friend about this concept, excuse the poor spelling and grammar; we were both in a hurry to express our views…
[13:59] mallow marsh: what do you think sin is?
[14:00] the-fall (felix culpa): Sin only exists in the psyche of religion. Were one to exist without any concept whatsoever of God, or the difference between “good” and “evil.” Then Sin would not exist, one action would have the same “moral” repercussions as another.
[14:00] mallow marsh: i don't know i think even without religion there would still be 'good and bad'
[14:00] the-fall (felix culpa): how so?
[14:00] mallow marsh: because i think emotions are inane in a person
[14:00] the-fall (felix culpa): do emotions reflect the "goodness" of an action
[14:01] the-fall (felix culpa): why do you think things are good? And others bad?
[14:01] mallow marsh: people think things are bad because of how they feel about it
[14:01] the-fall (felix culpa): but u wouldn’t “feel” any different about "sin" than anything else, if u didn’t understand that it existed
[14:02] mallow marsh: well if people didn't call it sin they'd probably call it something else
[14:02] the-fall (felix culpa): how could u be sad at a "bad" thing if u didn’t know the difference between good or bad?
[14:02] mallow marsh: because bad stuff happens even if you don't know is bad
[14:02] the-fall (felix culpa): what if there was no good or bad?
[14:02] the-fall (felix culpa): good and bad or purely human concepts
[14:02] the-fall (felix culpa): they were invented by humans
[14:02] mallow marsh: but there is good and bad, just like there is like there is light and dark
[14:03] the-fall (felix culpa): you only consider things good or bad because you were raised in a world that accepted their existence
This is quite an easy one. There's no such thing as 'sin.' Ta-Da!!! No, no please... hold your applause. :lol:
sin in my belief is to do something that God asked you not to do,in islam you might make sins but you can repent as you are alife -befor death,but if u sinned and died without repenting that goes to Allah's will ,if He forgives you or not.many sins our religion asks us not to make but the most sins that a person should be careful about is the rights of people
thank you an regards
Sin, i think is something( in an action, a thought or words ) that is "un-godly"...or comes between ur "relation" with God and your fellow human beings...and in case u don't believe in God ...then its something that goes against what's "natural" and the "truth".
"If there is sin against life, it consists perhaps not so much in despairing of life as in hoping for another life and in eluding the implacable grandeur of this life."
--Albert Camus
Ahem... Amen, and AAAAAAAA-Men!
Man-like is it to fall into sin,
Fiend-like is it to dwell therein,
Christ-like is it for sin to grieve,
God-like is it all sin to leave.Friedrich von Logau
We are just men.
Sin is natural
When we are gone from this place, lets meet at the Disagreeables Club.
I"m sure we'll have even more to discuss of sin at that time.