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Abbadon is not really dark or light if you think about it, with out death and destruction there can be no rebirth and no new beginnings. Also could it be possible Abbadon is indeed a woman and not a man because that would be an interesting idea all angels and demons are said to be male not one is sited to be female.
I invoke The Angel Abbadon.
Abbadon can be a destroyer for the good of mankind, against the Sons and Daughters of Belial.
A take I have on it is that Abbadon/Appollyon is sent by God to destroy all of the false teachings that plague the world. Since the Truth which all other knowledge stands on can never be destroyed, I would say he is more of an Angel of Judgement than anything else, but not a Demon, nor a fallen Angel since he is there only to destroy at God's command. Not to set himself above anything else.
The bible describes 2 different types of fallen angels. The first are those that were cast out of heaven with Satan, the second were those that choose to leave heaven to follow their own lusts. The second group are those angels who are already bound, in what the bible referrs to as everlasting chains of darkness. Rev 9 not only speaks of abbadon, but also of 4 angels bound in the river euphrates. My view is that abbadon is one of the angels who choose to leave, and is therefore bound in the pitt, to only be released to wreak havoc during the end times.This is only a theory, I have no conclusive proof that this is who he is or where he came from. Just remember that God can use all things for His purpose and glory and the horrors we read about in Rev, are Gods last attempt to turn the hearts of man toward Jesus! Also, from the text of rev 9, we read that the pitt is a prison, that a star falls to the earth and that the star was given the key to unlock the pitt. In another passage in rev, were it speaks of the war that occured in heaven, we read how when Satan, the dragon was cast out, that his tail drew 1/3 of the stars of heaven and cast them to earth. Therefore we can assume these stars are angels and that the star that was given the key to the pitt, is an angel also. if it takes a key to open the pitt, we can assume the pitt is a prison and that abbadon is being held there. One last thing, hell is not a place to be ruled over, or a place were any will have power. It is a place created by God, for those angels that rebeled and those that choose to leave of their on free will. It is a place of torment and a place where God will not be at all! It burns with his wrath and his jealousy and the only human spirits that will be there, are those that refused to accept the truth of Jesus Christ!
Rev-9, rev-20 kiasm
AT THE START OFTHE millennium, abadon chains the dragon, (satan) for 1000 years until the end of the millennium then final judgement is coming from God, OR CLOSE TO THAT ORDER
God bless one and God bless all. Glory to the Holy Trinity; God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit.
apollyan; perhaps the last in line-never going higher than 4th place.
Leviticus 11- what is healthy?. the Ten Commandments-still as accurate as ever.
That is not true.
He is not a God or demon.
that is not so, he is male and so is his arch nemesis-Lucifer
he will fall
True that after apologizing, he will not seek to be equal to God, Jesus or the Holy Spirit
rev-20-kiasm-abaddon will chain satan.
Perhaps after the expulsion of satan and the third who follow him, replacements are worthy to take their places.
John, (having a future vision) sees a star, (angel) fall from heaven having the key to the bottomless pit. The angel, (abaddon aka apollyon) opens the pit and smoke blocks the view of the sun and moon. Locust's with the power of scorpions are released on earth. The loc/scorps will hurt those who don't have the seal, (moral's) of god in their minds. Creature's possibly symbolic prepare for battle. Their king, or leader is abaddon aka apollyon. They use non lethal force. Two more bad event's occur; the sixth trump sounds, (possibly signifying the antichrist emerging, and fooling people). The 4 angel's are released and a 1/3 of mankind is slain in a great battle, (or war). Those who are still alive and do not repent for their sins are punished with plagues.
Before the flood 7 top ranking angels rebelled with the Cherub who became satan. 10 cheif angels who were the leaders or commanders of 200 each. They made a pact/oath with each other and all went and took wives. The offspring were a spirit/human mix. There flesh was more like a living outer garment. The part angel...part of them, lived on when there bodies died.
Azazel was bound "hand and foot" and thrown into a "pit" in duadel(?) Most likely the great Giza pyramid is a monument over that spot, built by (or at least engineered by) his angelic brethren (fallen angels/cherubs).
Othere angels and some of the spirits of the nephilim were imprisoned as well.
Satan request the spirits of the nephilim be left free under his authority to test men. God allowed him 1/10th of them, the rest were imprisoned with there fathers till the time of the end.
The 7 heads of the beast sybolize the original 7 leaders/rulers of the angelic rebels. The one slaughtered to death equals the angel of the abyss. The one who was but is not, and is about to ascend out of the abyss.
The locusts are the spirits of the nephilim..demons like the ones in Mark5:11-13.Luke10;19)
He will be released July-9th-2013.Daniel:7;25) and the world will change..but it will be years until the actual END end.
Abaddon/Abbadon/Apollyon get a bit of a mix in and people sometimes confuse them all with lucifer.
If you go back to the original Latin translations of this characters creation then you will find that when Lucifer was cast from heaven someone had to stay down there with him and make sure he stayed in his cell.
This was Abaddon's place, he is not a fallen angel. Rather a working angel, circling the gate of hell making sure none escape, including the humans he sees fit to drag there himself. Which is why he gets mixed up with death and vengeance and general being a demon because he lives essentially in hell. It's all rather loosely put into place but after a while Abaddon and Lucifer got tied in together but really they are different. Lucifer wanted to destroy mankind so God had the other angles cast him into hell which involved one volunteering to go and stay there ensure he never leaves his cell.
Long story short. If your really interested look up the original Latin translations, anything after that is rather twisted by what people wanted it to say such as that they are the same and what not...
I mean it's like Chinese whispers, translate re translate redefine re this re that. It just looses focus. If you read Latin then you could translate it yourself if you could be bothered.
Very cool character though when it comes to myths regarding Angels and what not.
Are you referring to the Bible? Latin versions of the Bible are still just translations. In fact I would argue that some modern English translations are more precise and accurate than the Latin Vulgate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh Catchlove
Go learn Hebrew and Greek if you want to read it in the original.
If you are referring to some medieval demonologies, those can be fun to read but since they are written over a millennium after the original texts and in a totally different kind of cultural frame, they are pretty much worthless as a source of reference for what Abaddon originally was meant to represent.
1 no one believes in greek myths and the bible surely doesn't. Now with that being said all demons in the bible are referred as Satans angels and satan is called Satan/Lucifer/Serpent but Abbodon isnt referred to as either. Revelations chapter 9 Abbodon is a star that was sent to earth and givin the key to the shaft of the abyss and this is true. He was crowned as Angel of the Abyss.
If he was of Sayan he wouldve already had the key his duty is to open the abyss and summon the locusts. And trust i Barre witness to this truth believe it or not. And so on it isn't the Angel/Abbodon who sends the locusts to kill the witness because God told the locusts and Abbodon that the Locusts are only to torcher for five months but they turned on the witnesess and this has to be in Gods will because one the story is similar to Jesus Christ he couldnt be touched until he was done prophesying *** well as the witnesses. And Jesus and the witnesses are both risen from death. This obviously is because God wanted to show a miracle threw them. And revelations never says Abbadon was cast into hell like Lucifer and his demons are....... Reread the book of revelations from nine on back because the things that are being said. These made comment are well thought of but are made up this is True. Believe it or not.
This is the closest idea for his real purpose, green eyed monsters are fairy tales, apart from if your mates see your cute girlfriend. For all we know it was Michael Landon who sought to open our eyes but failed for reasons only human nature can explain. The Bottomless Pit is easily described and felt by many on a daily basis, who is our angel if not Michael? The word "despair" comes to mind, and is spoken of as The Bottomless Pit, and it is, that is the hell on this Earth that is overlooked for a deeper meaning when it exists in our lives right now. The meanings are not meant to create visions of beasts that don't exist, they are meant for us to search inside our own souls and acknowledge others despair when it is apparent that mankind cannot achieve such a simple task as we all build our sand stairways to our own heavens.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seamystic