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S/he is frustrated due to people s/he talked to, don't trust/accept the things s/he considered as truth (in this case about Christ and Christianity as a whole), no matter how hard s/he tried.
If I'm not mistaken, there's a verse in the Bible which says that it is the work of holy spirit that can make someone believe in the teachings. It is not human work at all.
Right. I can't be convinced of something I don't feel.Quote:
Originally Posted by subterranean
I did not think we were trying to make anyone feel any different but trying to learn about what makes us who we are. I do not get the impression we were being argumentative here. I have met quite a few people who believe that atheist should not be allowed to walk the face of the Earth along with Spiritualist or any faith. That to me is taking things far to far and no matter what others say I believe we all are free to believe or not to believe. I will not pass judgment upon another just because I disagree with them or they are a different color then I am. Besides we are here to learn and state opinions and not to change a person into a believer or non believer.
Does anyone have a topic that we can discuss on? It would be more interesting than just drifting around aimlessly. Any part of the Bible that you need help in, or interested in?
What about the End times- Revelation? I like that Book, because it's getting VERY relevant to us now.
I always consider myself a naturalist. Something like a spiritualist. I was raised Irish Roman Catholic, believe to an extent in JC, but I recognise the energy which exists in all natural materials. I would probably be most closely relate to the druids (Irish roots).
To me the Trinity is 1. the Father (the spirit of that which has lived previously) 2. The Sun, the source of life radiates from that 3. The Holy Spirit, the Moon, that which provides light in the darkness.
B-Mental, why is "the father" is still used in your conception of holy trinity? I think the word "father" is used because Jesus is considered as the "son" in the new testament. Also, the old statement, didn't use the word 'father" because in this part of the Bible, Jesus was not yet "known".
Well, I am christian, Catholic to be prsise, and not ashamed nor scared to admit.
Actually, "Jesus" is in the Old Testament, but he is not called Jesus. There are instances throughout the Old Testament where a being called the Angel of the Lord performs the acts of God and is almost directly called God, so we see signs of a being with the powers of God, but is not God the Father.
Ula, I was referring to the term "son", not the "Jesus" part...
I thought that was the Holy Spirit, in order to be Jesus it must be the 'son of God'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ulalume<3
not to be ignorant, but I thought Jesus was only prophesized in the Old testament, not actually present.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ulalume<3
Probably to retain continuity, personally my father is dead. I'm not try to be chauvinistic, and am open to a word which conveys the concept.Quote:
Originally Posted by subterranean
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Originally Posted by Stanislaw
I agree whoelheartedly
Just wanted to point out that agnosticism is a philosophy that comprises a bit more than just "not knowing." It may sound like playing semantics, but agnostics believe that humans can never know for certain, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that there is positively a higher being or lack thereof.
Agnosticism encompasses pure skepticism.
the word faith comes into play here...