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Lyndall Gordon writes from an ideological bias and like Gaskell, she is more interested in recreating Charlotte as a person, than in an analysis of the creative process that lead to Villette.
You may be right. I generally prefer to form my own conclusions about persons, based on the sources (in this case Charlotte's letters), exactly to avoid this bias. I have found from experience that sometimes even correct quoting can alter the meaning of a sentence if it is detached from the whole (f.e. I always thought that CB's comments about men that "do not understand making letters the vehicle of communication" was an angry comment, but reading her whole letter it is obvious that her husband is standing next to her reading what she writes and she is simply teasing and provoking him for looking "too serious now". She even admits that all this seems to her so funny and that she never would have thought the security of her letters).
I do not agree with Gordon in everything she says, even when it comes to Charlotte's personality. For example in the famous instance where her father gave his children to wear a mask and asked them questions that he thought they would answer more freely this way, Gordon says that Charlotte gave conventional answers, the answers that he expected her to give. I highly disagree. The question he put to Charlotte was "what is the best book in the world" and she answered "the bible". And he continued "and the second best?" and she said "the book of nature". Now religion and nature was in my opinion two characteristic poles in Charlotte's nature. She wrote when she was in her adolescence to Ellen that she "longed for a holiness she will never, never attain", because there was that infernal world and that imagination of her's that devoured her and made her think of society as it was insipid. The holiness, the religious path was something that idealistic Charlotte could devote to and also one course that women could take after excluding the possibility of a marriage as Charlotte had. But she could not follow that part because her passions were too strong. She was living in the "hot climate" of Angria that left her polluted. In a way she managed to reconciliate those two tendencies in her, that must have troubled her greatly in her Heger dilemma. I believe she came to see passion as something natural and religion not so stiff a concept that to be felt restraining.
Another thing that she claims and really bothers me is that Charlotte decided to marry Nicholls as a reaction to Smith's marriage. This is so very childish and vindictive and immature to be thought by Charlotte. Her marriage depended most on her father's attitude and her personal anxieties about the chances of being happy with a man she did not love but respected. Charlotte may have seen her prospects diminished every year as she was getting older and her father was aging too and she thought she would stay entirely alone after his death and her break up with the Smiths was in my opinion brought mostly due to their omitting of communicating to her his engagement. She thought they were friends, if they could be nothing else.
And finally I disagree with the biographers that claim that Charlotte chose personal life over her professional one. How do they know if she would continue to write after her marriage had she lived? How can they make conclusions so fast? She was married for 9 months. If you take out the 1,5 month she was in Ireland and the 3 months that she was sick and some weeks they went visiting or received friends in the parsonage you will see that she had very little time for anything. And she was newly married. And also she used to spend many months between her novels without writing at all because she had no inspiration or wanted to accumulate experiences. The fact only that her husband relates the instance where she read to him Emma and discussed it together shows that she had not left her profession for good and she intended to write. Nicholls said to her about the plot that she would be accused of repeating herself because she refers to a school and she answered "oh, I will change that" and explained that she always started three times before being contended with her work. The future tense shows everything. If with her bringing a child into the world she would find even less spare time to devote to her art it is a different matter and again you can not tell.
So, I am not a 100% sure about the infatuation you mention but from what I have seen from her letters she seems to really had feelings for Smith (although I have not seen the total of her letters to him). You will say that this may have nothing to do with Villette. And you may be right. I just mentioned it because the next time I will read Villette (and this will be after reading all her letters to him) I would like to observe at what extend I agree or disagree with Gordon's point of view. Probably it will not help me at all with Lucy's story :lol: . In Jane Eyre my learning about the Heger case had opposite effects: for a time I could not read the book with the same feeling. Jane's and Rochester's lines, and even St John's "sounded" different. Charlotte's personal story was disrupting the novel for me. I finally got over it thankfully. But it still pains me to think that this book came from a story so sad and hopeless. That is the real wonder for me: how a woman so hurt by love wrote a hymn for it. Ok I know about "sublimation", the conversion of inner struggles to art, and other defense mechanisms, but it was something extremely difficult to render, let alone write a happy alternative.
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Most of the posts are by young women who have experienced some form of infatuation and by principle of Gestalt, would claim a personal resonance, an understanding of Villette. Yet how many could transform their infatuation into a work of art?
Not many :lol:.Literature would have a whole bunch of classic books and Jane Eyre would be less extraordinary, if anyone could write a book about every single disappointment of love that he/she had. It is exactly what irritates me when people blame Charlotte Bronte for "writing her life". Even if it was as simple as this, how many persons could make so many people interested in it?
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Since you have read, carefully, and formed an opinion on Villette, will you allow a few questions?
Oh, God! I feel a heavy burden in my shoulders. I'm not an expert in Villette. I am much more confident about my opinions on Jane Eyre. The first time I read Villette I didn't grasp the significance/extent of Lucy's love for Graham, the second time was far better and the third reading (through translation this time) complicated the matter too much as the translator chose to use totally different words corresponding to the English ones than I had in mind. It didn't make half the impression the original language had made upon me.
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How do you interpret the division of the novel into 3 parts and the recapitulation of events from the previous volume in the subsequent volumes?
My book doesn't mention where each volume ended. So I never noticed it too much. If you can write me the chapters where that happens, I will see if I can answer that. Someone in a forum said that the plot is that way because it mirrors Lucy's psychological journey. For me the book (which has been characterized as pre-Freudian) is referring to the Freudian belief that there are recurrent patterns of events in our lives, which makes kind of sense if you consider that each person makes his choice according to his personality and as far as this doesn't change we tend to repeat confronting situations that seem similar. On the other hand Bronte always in my opinion chooses to disregard whether a situation is all too probable in favor of illuminating different sides of her character's personality and development. Her characters tend to re-enact some situations and trying their different footing: like Jane Eyre returning to Gateshead, that makes her realize she is stronger now and doesn't need her cousins' approval or her gaining a fortune and cousins but her still missing Rochester. Lucy's life follows a pattern of losses and storms and loneliness and being the alien part in most situations. At first she tries to ignore its significance and forget. Her feelings come back stronger and delude her. After learning who she is, she may not become happier, as fate continues to wrong her, but she manages to survive and is stronger than before. She has loved and lost, but at least she has lived too. She is not a bright lady's shadow in the end and she stands on her feet.
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And “What Lucy recognizes as the 'seeming inconsistency' of her treatment of John in volume 2 disappears when she comes to describe the hero of volume 3, Paul Emanuel.”
From where is that sentence?
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if we interpret Lucy's hallucinations in the present and not of emotions distorting the memory of the past, does this suggest that Lucy's inability to deal with ' heretic narrative' of the first two volumes be viewed as a mild form of schizophrenia, the hallucinations and delusions revolving around theme of of unrequited love.
In what hallucinations are you referring to? This? "The solitude and the stillness of the long dormitory could not be borne any longer; the ghastly white beds were turning into spectres--the coronal of each became a death's-head, huge and sun-bleached--dead dreams of an elder world and mightier race lay frozen in their wide gaping eyeholes."
Please quote because I do not remember anything else except the nun (which was real). I don't think her state ever supports schizophrenia. It would be more probable to see hallucinations as symptoms of depression with psychotic elements. But I still think the part I quoted as powerful metaphors to show her state more vividly.
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Is the characterization by George Eliot of Villette, of “preternatural in it's powers” a recurrence of an image of madness, of Bertha in Jane Eyre and Lucy in Villette, an indication of obsession of a theme in Charlotte? Or is this a meditation on death so frequent in Charlotte's experience?
Charlotte mentions in her letters to Heger that they may consider her mad but they could not suffer what she did for 6 months now, not even for a day. Catherine Earnshaw becomes mad out of grief. I believe it was a common belief of the era.
Meditation on death was unavoidable. In a way Lucy's conclusion that there are some people destined to live unhappy could be interpreted as a simple case of learned helplessness (which can be caused by recurrent patterns of misfortune as death was for Charlotte). Gaskell asked her if she believed what she had written and she answered in the affirmative. Gaskell then retorted that everybody should hope. Charlotte smiled sadly and said that it was a long time since she was trying to struggle hope (this dialogue was a repetition of the one that already existed in the book between Graham and Lucy when she claims that happiness is no potato to cultivate). Charlotte chose to face the grim reality and quit hoping, because when you do not hope you do not get disappointed. She reminds me of that saying that the good side of being pessimistic is that you are often found to be correct in your predictions and in the cases you are wrong you are pleasantly surprised :) .
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For neither Bronte nor Lucy Snowe can facts or circumstances of experience offer any satisfaction. Family is gone;suitors have disappeared; it is primarily a record of losses and humiliations.”
Therefore in contradiction to “Gordon gives us a rather different picture, of an outwardly meek but in actual fact very determined, steely woman who refused to be ground down by fate, the one who admitted that it would take a great deal to crush me.”
Charlotte was in many ways a woman grieved, with a grim vision of the future that neither religious feeling could disperse. Life was unfair but she wouldn't just give up. The phrase "it will take a great deal to crush me" is a real phrase of hers from a letter to Mr Williams about a negative review of Jane Eyre. In Villette we also find the phrase: "If life be a war, it seemed my destiny to conduct it single-handed. I pondered now how to break up my winter-quarters--to leave an encampment where food and forage failed. Perhaps, to effect this change, another pitched battle must be fought with fortune; if so, I had a mind to the encounter: too poor to lose, God might destine me to gain."
Charlotte, Jane, Lucy are fighters (sometimes not because they chose to be so, but there are battles they have to give). They are survivors and have fought bravely. It took a great deal of courage (and-for some who dislike them-an amount of stubbornness) for all of them to defy what others saw in them as feminine/appropriate or not. Charlotte wrote despite Southey's advise, Jane grew to be a confident woman, even if she was told she was worse than the servants, Lucy wanted to compromise with fate, but in the middle of the way she chose not to be a bright lady's shadow. I believe that what we have here are two extreme images of Charlotte's that Gaskell and Gordon created. Charlotte was an ambitious, brave woman with many visions beyond her era and a great talent to impart those or at least her thought and her dilemma's. But she was human too and she had a very sad life and many disappointments that could not be re-compensated by success or fame. She was still lonely but she was not, on the other hand, simply a woman broken by grief, always grave and sad - a victim, as Gaskell presented her. The truth lies somewhere between those stereotypes.
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Her death certificate gives the cause of death as phthisis (tuberculosis), but many biographers suggest she may have died from dehydration and malnourishment, caused by excessive vomiting from severe morning sickness. Even in 19th. century an necessary death.
Her death certificate write "phisis" which is not even a word. As Charlotte was vomiting severely until she drew out blood it was supposed that it was consumption. The blood however could come from her stomach and not lungs.
Her husband in announcing her death to Ellen speaks of dehydration which of course was the effect of vomiting. We will never know the cause of her death. I wish it could be proved irrelevant with her pregnancy. So much guilt has been attributed to her husband and marriage and its outcomes...
"Even in 19th. century an necessary death." What do you mean by a necessary death?
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And does the difficulty of Villette, “The novel is a mirror in which reality is transformed to grant the emotional and aesthetic satisfaction that life invariably withholds.”, partially lies in “Villette would seem to be a novel that must be read backwards or, at least, reread if one is to judge the narrator's perspective accurately."
Is this from the essay by Janice Carlisle?