Twilight

dis book sucks i canrt beleive any 1 likes it. whats wrong wit the world today that peple can call this dog crap good

After reading most of the posts, I think only one thing can be said:

One man's junk is another man's treasure.

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Originally Posted by JBI

I gave it three pages, more than it deserved. Just because its popular poorly written cliché doesn't mean I should be forced to read it before commenting.

It's like saying I must read every bad book before being able to say they are bad. As a student of contemporary literature, that puts me in a problem spot - how the hell can one read good books, if they are forced to finish every bad book before they are "allowed to comment". The point is, I saw the thread heading in a direction, and I wanted to approach it from perspective points, but am awaiting a go ahead, as it is rather pushing against some of the forum rules, mainly the no discussing current events, which could or could not include said subjects.

But yeah, I haven't read the book, so I can't comment on said subjects right? I'm not a Twilight authority, so I can't comment on politics.



On another note, how the **** am I supposed to comment on the fourth book of a mediocre series, without reading the whole thing. By that notion, every review of that book is naturally biased, given that the readers had first wanted to continue after the first one, therefore rendering the reading relative to other volumes in the series, rather than to literature in general.

But yeah, sit back and enjoy your thread, because I'm not allowed to comment, right? I haven't read the whole book, so I clearly no nothing about the American tradition, or American politics in novels.

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JBI what are we going to do with you. There was no intention to stop you commenting in this or any other thread. So lets talk.

We will have agree to disagree about the three pages being enough to judge a book. I think that is a little stiff but I will grant that you may know your stuff and your mind better than I know mine.

As a student of contemporary literature you are going to come across bad books I am sure, looks like you have already found four;) I have no idea how to deal that so I am of no help to you there, but if you could answer me one question how do you know what's a good book if you don't read any bad ones?

As for the direction of the thread you are right we need to wait for the go ahead but as I said ealier I think this is a small part of the book but you and Kelbl Lake are right (see I have been thinking about it) it could do with some discussion. If we get the go ahead I hope you allow us the chance to explain to you the circumstances surrounding the event to put it into context, at least as we (Charm and Myself) see it - I am not sure we are on the same page with regards to that. So if we are allowed we will pick up the gloves then.

No one said you had to be a Twilight authority in fact I am not sure I am either - but if you wanted to ask me about Edward than we are good to go :blush:

I'll give you this you add a little spice to a thread so if you would do me one small favour and stick around I would really appreciate it. A little spice does the soul good every now and again doesn't it.

So to keep the thread moving alone I still think that the book is a love story at its core. Does anyone else have any other thoughts on that? JBI what do you think?

Jo, you are so much more diplomatic than I!

And I agree with you completely. I'm sorry JBI, I get ahead of myself sometimes. I'd love to go ahead with this discussion if we get a mod on board, and I promise I'll try to be fair and keep my temper:)

Yep - at the heart, it's a life style.

I don't know about everyone else but i love fluffy books. I read them because I don't want to read heavy or thought provoking books all the time. Same reason i watch fluffy movies and fluffy tv.

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Originally Posted by limajean

Yep - at the heart, it's a life style.

I don't know about everyone else but i love fluffy books. I read them because I don't want to read heavy or thought provoking books all the time. Same reason i watch fluffy movies and fluffy tv.

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Haha LJ, I love that you're trying to keep this thread from getting into an argument. A valiant effort!

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Originally Posted by *Classic*Charm*

Jo, you are so much more diplomatic than I!

And I agree with you completely. I'm sorry JBI, I get ahead of myself sometimes. I'd love to go ahead with this discussion if we get a mod on board, and I promise I'll try to be fair and keep my temper:)

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Years of practice Charm years of practice.

Oh my lord there is something wrong with me.

LIFE STYLE?

I meant love story.

Oh my god i'm deranged.

And thanks Charm :)

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Originally Posted by limajean

Oh my lord there is something wrong with me.

LIFE STYLE?

I meant love story.

Oh my god i'm deranged.

And thanks Charm :)

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Well I didn't even pick that up myself I read Love Story. I seriously need some help :p

Funny...I did read Life Style and still didn't notice at all that it made no sense...perhaps some sleep is in order!

The main thing is that people love the books and that they get enjoyment out of them!

The main thing is that people love the books and that they get enjoyment out of them!

Yes... and do you think that JBI or I read Dante or Shakespeare or Proust or T.S. Eliot for any reason but pleasure? The reality is that with experience (at least in my experience) one no longer finds much pleasure to be had in books that laden with tired plots, weak characters, mediocre use of language, and ridden with cliches. Personally I don't find much pleasure in trashy or fluffy books or music or art because they don't engage my mind and their attempts to manipulate my emotions are far too obvious. I can't imagine wasting my time when there are so many great books (and other works of art) still to be experienced and enjoyed.

And imprinting is also iffy...I think we oughta have a separate thread to discuss the more controversial stuff, as some people may not have read the whole saga. And not so I can say 'Ooh,this is an EVIL book!' just so I can see what other people think of the iffy parts.

The imprinting thing was iffy. At first the concept sounded kind of okay, until the whole think of imprinting on kids and babies... :sick:

This is one of the funniest threads on the board. :)