How is thinking of a picture thinking verbally? And, how can blind and death people think other than non-verbally?
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How is thinking of a picture thinking verbally? And, how can blind and death people think other than non-verbally?
I am not sure I follow that sentiment, could you articulate more?
Hey, I knew a deaf student who got her AAS degree the same time I got mine, and she could talk, so she had to think verbally, no? And she had an aide with her who both used AMSL and slow lip movement to help her understand the Prof., so she had to think verbally for that as well, right? I could talk to her as I used to work in a very noisy wood-working factory, and you basically had to slow lip read, As we understood each other, she though verbally or I have telepathy, and which is more likely? http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...Kane/dunno.gif
To ellaborate on what deaf people conceptualize of words, if that is the question, let me say that first I'm no expert, only having read and watched some documentaries on the subject. I guess for maximum information, Gauludet (spelling?) University which accomadates deaf studies would know for sure; nevertheless, the sound of of word is not all of it's essence. The sight, meaning and context/ not to mention lip reading and other resources for the deaf like perhaps TTY allow them the same access to words, concepts, meanings, connotations, denotations that they use for interaction with the speaking world. Therefore, thinking in words, or word-concepts might vary but strictly speaking, i wouldn't call it completely non-verbal thought. Verbal, by definition, implies sound and meaning but meaning is all. My real question is not so specialized. The mind-set in question is fully articulated humans thinking (maybe just feeling) in non-verbal ways. If we question what thinking is non-verbal...I percieve things like instincual reaction, joy, rage, even analysis by way of the "mind's eye" that one might classify as non-verbal thought. The crux of my question really is, though, if we think in words then the extent of vocabulary a given person has might be an amplification or reduction of thoughtful abilities. So; if our vocabulary is the resource for verbal thought then it also is the limitation of verbal thought. It is a question for some linguists and maybe the answer is allready accepted academic "reality", but for myself...still a question. quasimodo1
Sorry, Niamh, and I think you can keep going lalala if that is what you feel like, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by Niamh
I only put the opening post link in case people didn't realize that the only rule of the thread is that every response must be phrased in the form of a question, ok?
Sorry if I offended anybody....? I'm a jerk, you know?
I've read your postings, you're no jerk...but then, you know that. q1
Hey your no jerk! (and if anyone every says you are, i'll send George the Leprachaun and his band of pixies after them Kay?:pQuote:
Originally Posted by kathycf
) I was just curious Kathy! I just got somewhat confused you know?
easy one...What animal is Eugene Ionesco associated with?
Who? *googles* Is it a rhino?
The Rhino, great play, yes?
Was it that play in which the people become rhinos? Same time period as Beckett?
Wow, thank you for this, Quasimodo1Quote:
Originally Posted by quasimodo1
And people becoming Rhinos? Do tell!
Why haven't I heard of this play?
You may have heard of it, since I abbreviated it's name. "The Rhinocerous" by Eugene Ionesco is a play, it has been interpreted in both existential and absurdist modes. The huge animal comes into a (French?) town and proceeds to rampage while rumors of it and news of it are heard by townspeople out of earshot and the interpretation which I took from it is about how people won't recognize the unusual, the new, or the intellectually frightening concepts they are unfamiliar with. Argueable. The long posting before it, I made about a different question relating to verbal vs. non-verbal thought. They are not connected. So many times in these forums, and I've done it, the threads will diverge and then come together again. Interesting reading, i.e. Ionesco. quasimodo1
Kathy a jerk? Where be the vile varlet villainous enough to venomize the air with such prattle? I’ll have his liver an’ lights, if he continues to besmirch the fair Dead Undying, She-Who-Is-Not-To-Be-Named, hear ye?
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...e/dragfire.gif
She is well protected is she not? by dragons and a band of pixies lead by leprechaun?
You are so sweet, but you must promise not to take my liver and lights, ok? I called myself a jerk, and can consider myself to be my own worse enemy, you know? :blush:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pendragon
I am incredibly lucky to have such sweet and caring friends, am I not?Quote:
Originally Posted by Niamh
(I mean that, I AM very lucky and thank you guys. :) )
Well, tae say the truth, my Dear Dead Undying One, I cannae stomach the taste o' liver an' lights, ye ken? Bye the bye, have ye nae got a potholder? This knight is done to a crisp, methinks?
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...agonKnight.gif
Don't you just love the little pics that adorn the posts of our Pen?
I'm really liking these dragons? Got any dancing fairies for Niamh?
Dancing? Fraid not. Fairy? Aye, and well known, at that! http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...Tinkerbell.gif
Would you believe these just in?
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...iryBashful.gif
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...FairyDance.gif
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...yandfriend.gif
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1..._Max_Ch_20.gif
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1.../FairyMoon.gif
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...ng-flowers.gif
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...rple-fairy.gif
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...airyRipple.gif
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...Max_Ch_100.gif
In two the animations won't seems to work, but what do I know? Enjoy!
Those were fantastic, wouldn't you agree?
How could I not agree? Those pics are so nice, it would be hard to choose a favorite, don't you think?
You got a Froud Fairy! Can i copy this? (i think i had the proper pic of this for an avy for about two weeks!)
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q...ple-fairy1.gif
And put it with my dancing Alien?
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q...king/thgir.gif
Sure! After all, I copied it from someplace that had free animations. Use a photobucket account if you want the animation to work. Save to your computer as a .gif, then upload to photobucket, OK? If you don't have a photobucket account, they are free, just join up, OK?
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...rple-fairy.gif
Copied! very easy to copy dont you think?
Isn't it easier just to cut?
Anyone on this forum ever read the "Seven Pillars of Wisdom" T>E>Lawrance?
That would be Lawrence
ok, has anyone seen Lawrence of Arabia, you know the David Lean film about T<E<Lawrence?
No, but i think i own "Seven Pillars of Wisdom"?
quasi, yes I have seen the film countless times; it is one of my favorites, and in fact David Lean is one of my favorite directors. Besides being an awfully nice man (I have observed him on many a special features segment being interviewed), he was brilliant don't you think? I just saw "Bridge Over the River Kwai" again, and I also own and love "Passage to India"; I own "Lawence of Arabia" and can watch it anytime I please - think that is my all time favorite Lean film - a masterpiece!Quote:
Originally Posted by quasimodo1
For everyone here is a bit of trivia - The real Lawrence was friendly with Thomas Hardy. The real Lawrence was a very interesting character indeed.
Pen, nice fairies - thanks - I copied a few, too!
Always glad to oblige. Have you heard the rumors concerning T.E. Lawrence's sudden "accidential motorcycle wreck", quasi? http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l1...Kane/Biker.gif
Maybe this is just gullibility talking or some instinctual response to the man, not the writer, but personally, I think it was not an accident. Sometimes people don't commit suicide but lead a lifestyle that inevitably leads to it. Then again, maybe just wrong place, wrong time. Still, he lived on the sharp edge of a one edged blade. Where would we be without historical figures of such vision and genious? Do you believe that those in ignorance of the past are doomed to repeat it. What we need is Lawrence of Iraq. quasi
More like someone who had reached the end of his usefulness and would not go quietly into the night, so-- well, you catch my meaning? http://smilies.vidahost.com/games/gu...rongweapon.gif
can anyone really catch meaning? can you catch a cloud or a rainbow?
You never heard of a "prisim"? Or a fog machine?
No, what are theese "prisms" and "fog machines" of which you speak? ;)
well, yeah perhaps you can fashion a device that will enable you to catch these things, but you yourself cannot catch them with your hands can you now? (hmmphhh ;) )