The Earth is FIXED in Space

"This is a public service anouncment: visitors are requested not to feed the troll."

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Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC

The best way to answer such ludicrous concepts is with silence.

Why don't we just let this thread die?

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I couldn't agree more. If M wants to reject reality, that's his own choice: it's impossible to win an argument against such a person, as you simply don't have the same frames of reference. That way lies madness and despair, my friends!

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Originally Posted by bazarov

You disagree with a way I have said it or with idea?

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I was playing with your words - you mentioned time travel, as in time differences on earth, but I thought time travel, as in returning to the past, fitted quite well

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Originally Posted by Lokasenna

"This is a public service anouncment: visitors are requested not to feed the troll."

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You spoilsport!

How often do we get our very own one at LitNet to play with?

This one seems quite cute & cuddly, plus, I love the idea of those distant galaxies travelling around the earth at 300,000,000 mps^googol. How can you not like technology which could see you in Orion in about 1/100th of a second?

I'm booking my seat on the first trip!

You have to laugh ! When it comes to the alleged rotation of Earth's atmosphere (clouds etc) they make a complete pig's ear of their huge dogma when they are asked to show it in simple detail. When the subject is examined with flights between two cities (any two cities on the entire Earth) they again make a pig's ear ! When the Coriolis Effect is appealed to and examined the alleged rotation of the Earth and the atmosphere at many hundreds of miles an hour is once again admitted to be full of problems - even by the very scientists who teach it ! Page after page of embarrasment. And then comes Lokasenna with his juvenile 'public service announcement not to feed the troll' !!

I think we SHOULD feed the troll ! He will then grow up and understand what the evidence is saying. And said from the start. Does he believe Father Christmas or the Easter Bunny is in town ? He probably does.

It's a sad reflection on the 'education' of our youngsters. Anyway, thanks for the conversation.

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Originally Posted by Lokasenna

"This is a public service anouncment: visitors are requested not to feed the troll."



I couldn't agree more. If M wants to reject reality, that's his own choice: it's impossible to win an argument against such a person, as you simply don't have the same frames of reference. That way lies madness and despair, my friends!

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You are so right BeccaT !

This is akin to the Moon Landing Hoax. Anyone who disagrees must be a 'crackpot' even if we make complete fools of ourselves with our 'education'. Thanks for this conversation.

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Originally Posted by BeccaT

This is too akin to the long-ago deleted 'Was the Moon Landing a Hoax?' thread. And anybody who's been around since then knows my views on THAT subject... and thus, on this one. Crackpot websites are not empirical evidence.

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Crackpot textbooks are not empirical evidence too. If you find some evidence for the rotation of the Earth and its atmosphere don't forget to post it here. Right ? In the meantime, thanks for the conversation.

:crash:

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Originally Posted by BeccaT

This is too akin to the long-ago deleted 'Was the Moon Landing a Hoax?' thread. And anybody who's been around since then knows my views on THAT subject... and thus, on this one. Crackpot websites are not empirical evidence.

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This thread speaks for itself. The mass media and the high priests of 'science' are teaching complete nonsense. And it's centuries old. Science fiction, in fact.

Thanks for the conversation.

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Originally Posted by papayahed

I guess we are at an impass because I believe the same about you.


Now, how about this question:

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LOL !! In such a case your silence is deafening !!!

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Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC

The best way to answer such ludicrous concepts is with silence.

Why don't we just let this thread die?

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Originally Posted by Musicology

This thread speaks for itself. The mass media and the high priests of 'science' are teaching complete nonsense. And it's centuries old. Science fiction, in fact.

Thanks for the conversation.

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Wait:

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Originally Posted by papayahed

You still haven't addressed why the sun or other planets with atmospheres are able to move through space and retain their atmospheres?

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And you still haven't learned that this particular thread is on the Earth.

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Originally Posted by papayahed

Wait:

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Originally Posted by Musicology

And you still haven't learned that this particular thread is on the Earth.

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Doesn't matter. I'm asking how you can believe the earth is fixed because of the atmosphere if as you have stated the planets and sun, which have atmospheres, move around the earth.



Earth has atmosphere - fixed
Jupiter, Sun has atmosphere - not fixed

how can this be?

Doesn't matter ?

You want to float away into outer space because you can't discuss the EARTH ? Having made a nonsense of that subject you want to divert us away to other planets, right ?

How about a discussion on the EARTH ? The actual evidence of 'Earth rotation' or 'atmospheric rotation'.

Can you do this ? No. It seems you cannot. In fact we see clearly you cannot.

NASA fictions. Textbook fictions. All believed as truth when they are, in fact, science fiction. We study those subjects and the wheels fall off straight away. Time and time again.

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Originally Posted by papayahed

Doesn't matter. I'm asking how you can believe the earth is fixed because of the atmosphere if as you have stated the planets and sun, which have atmospheres, move around the earth.



Earth has atmosphere - fixed
Jupiter, Sun has atmosphere - not fixed

how can this be?

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Originally Posted by Musicology

And you still haven't learned that this particular thread is on the Earth.

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This particular thread is named "The Earth is FIXED in Space" which implies that it is about the relation between Earth and Space. You cannot, therefore, in this discussion, consider the Earth all by herself.

Better rename the thread.

No, the thread will not be renamed. And if you have no further contribution to make to it I've finished posting here.

Science Fiction 0
Science Fact 1

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Originally Posted by Lulim

This particular thread is named "The Earth is FIXED in Space" which implies that it is about the relation between Earth and Space. You cannot, therefore, in this discussion, consider the Earth all by herself.

Better rename the thread.

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Better still: We have two sides here:

• Musicology claims that the earth is fixed in space.
• The rest of us claims that it is not.

Suggestion: As neither side is likely to change its opionion, I think it is long overdue to agree to disagree and move on instead of beating a dead horse for the remainder of eternity.

/Claes

Yes, we have two sides. And only one side is presenting the evidence. Only one side is being dogmatic. And only side finds the support of modern science.

When they are both compared, fairly, in open discussion, the reader can see for themselves which is fact, and which is fiction. And why.

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Originally Posted by ClaesGefvenberg

Better still: We have two sides here:

• Musicology claims that the earth is fixed in space.
• The rest of us claims that it is not.

Suggestion: As neither side is likely to change its opionion, I think it is long overdue to agree to disagree and move on instead of beating a dead horse for the remainder of eternity.

/Claes

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