Or maybe they are not as argumentative as the Evolutionist lot ;)
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Or maybe they are not as argumentative as the Evolutionist lot ;)
I hadn't thought of that one :p
No one has written in this thread for a while.... so anyway I thought Id share this quote from Stephen Hawkings:
"Although science may solve the problem of how the universe began, it can not answer the question: why does the universe bother to exist? Maybe only God can answer that"
:)
Yes, agreed, a God is a philosophical stance.
Proof of God: he wrote the world bestseller of all time.
Should I elaborate? :D
Yes, please do :D
Like to see that argument hold ground once LotR manages to outsell it. Then where will ya be? heh.
Seriously though.. if popularity meant anything we'd all be Chinese.
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Originally Posted by Dyrwen
That was hilarious! :lol:
I thought it was a rather rude generalisation of chinese people...
Well humor be damned, the argument was for popularity equalling truth and who's more populous than people from China?
I suppose I could've said one in four animals is a beatle, but that doesn't relate much to human life..heh.
RE: POST #228 " A quote by Steven Hawkins"
IMHO...... Ya know, I LOVE Steven Hawkins mind, his personality, and his indominatable approach to an existence (his so much more so) full of trials and tribulations. But I have to wonder what (religiously motivated no doubt) reporter finally waggled this answer (actually Hawkins refrains from answering, allowing instead a position of supposition) from Hawkins lips. Hawkins is a physicist. Read his book, " A Brief History of Time".............The gods don't make any mystical appearances in Hawkins book....
Hmmmm, are all physicists automatically nonbelievers?Quote:
Originally Posted by baddad
According to The Celebrity Atheist List (which I do not offer as any sort of conclusive "evidence"), Mr. Hawking seems to be something of a deist--he believes in a God, but not a "personal" God. Just because "the Gods" do not make an appearance in one of his books does not really mean anything at all.
Basil, What is a 'personal' God?
*notices Stanislaw Lem on the athiest list.....nods to Stan...*
Knowing nothing about religion, I will tenatively offer this distinction: "personal gods" are very active in the lives of mortals and very concerned about the human race; so much, in fact, that it sends the losers of their little morality contest to a very bad place where they are not allowed to watch The Simpsons or eat Klondike Bars. The belief in an "impersonal" god (I think) presumes that human existence is NOT some sort of holy experiment, and that it is possible a higher power exists, but that life is just incidental and not the basis for a morality play.Quote:
Originally Posted by baddad
I'd say you summed it up well. In another light, a personal god is one that interferes with life and expects certain things from its creations. An impersonal god just made the universe and went on vacation letting whatever happens, happen, without consequence.
Many scientists that happen to still be theists, will usually be deists, because it allows them to get around having to understand how the universe came to be by figuring "Something made it, left it, and we'll never know what it was." Gets around that whole testy religious angle, but leaves in the whole "why are we here" idea.