About animals

You're right. We have to be careful since we don't know what damage we are causing. We only think we do.

I was reading some new age guru who said if we did not do something or other, our species would go extinct. Maybe. It used to be if we did not do something or other, we would go to hell.

I didn´t know what the guru said but right now our species could put some more effort in living in harmony.

I agree. We won't get very far without harmony.

Snow leopards relaxing!

http://www.livescience.com/58878-wil...era-video.html

They are like cats playing together.

They don´t feel menaced. They are among themselves and didn´t notice or didn´t mind the camera.

I wonder if animals have "shared intentionality"? Reading Haidt ("The Righteous Mind") he seems to think only humans have that, but I wonder. This would be like two animals communicating to do something together. It seems crows showed such shared intentionality. It would be like one animal holding down the branch of a tree so that another animal can gather fruit that they both can eat and not fight over afterwards. Or if two monkeys together carried something.

I think those crows showed shared intentionality when they grouped together to attack the researchers.

I believe they have it too. This concept seems to mean that a member of a certain species is able to act together with one or more companions. There are several examples. I remember for example some solidarity tests with monkeys and elephant way back in this thread.

Haidt's Moral Foundation Theory is very good when he stays close to his experimental evidence which is mainly tests on human subjects including use of fMRI data. His research is able to isolate six innate moral foundations that make sense once he describes them as well as noting that reason is primarily used to rationalize positions. When he tries to justify that "innateness" his evolutionary theory seems controversial. He seems to separate humans from other animals too much, but certainly we have been very successful and that needs some explanation.

I looked him up. A psychology of morals is something new for me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Haidt

A rather curious dissertation subject. Part of the research was done here. I just had a look but didn´t read it yet.

http://people.stern.nyu.edu/jhaidt/a...on.pub001b.pdf

Posting Unesco site about Fernando de Noronha-area of turtle and other animals preservation:

http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1000/gallery/

Those were beautiful photographs in the gallery.

Thanks for the links on Haidt. I finished the book and I think it is more political posturing than I originally expected.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbina_(genus)

Please feel free to watch in mute mood if you prefer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVVIniPMnSE

Doves are such peaceful-looking birds.