You post it on the Unofficial Words thread in General Literature of course!Quote:
Originally Posted by Virgil
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You post it on the Unofficial Words thread in General Literature of course!Quote:
Originally Posted by Virgil
Now here's a couple questions for the ages: which one is the LEFT sock? Which sandal is the "flip" and which is the "flop"? And what's the atomic weight of cobalt?
...okay, I just threw that last one in, just for kicks (it's about 58.933 amu), but the other ones are important!
No i've never tried to do so coz am not English ..so sue me or kill my tutor! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by XXdarkclarityXX
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If you don't know English, learn before posting. If you don't feel like learning or don't learn enough, then don't post.
Do you really want me to start up on this again? I won't sue you and I won't kill your tutor, but what I will do is tell you to get your butt in gear. It really doesn't matter what nationality you are or what language you speak...you are using English, so use it correctly! Furthermore, you chose to come on this forum knowing full well that one of the requirements is using English. Did you think you could come in here and use it incorrectly? If that is indeed what you thought, do you then suppose people here are to take you seriously? You may (or may not) be a master of your native language but here (from what you've displayed) you are illiterate and I see no need for you to post here until you've developed enough linguistically to start forming coherent words and sentences. Lastly, stop using this place as target practice for your "shooting" of the English language. This place need not be butchered by people like you who post without knowing what you are doing. The humorous part of all this is that you expect tolerance and receive it in turn. Why should you expect (or receive for that matter)tolerance when you can't communicate in English with even minimal competence? Would you tolerate someone expressing their thoughts in your native language while consistently destroying any mention of correct syntax and diction? I think not, and to think that you should get away with that is hypocritical.Quote:
No i've never tried to do so coz am not English ..so sue me or kill my tutor!
This, of course, is going to seem harsh and intolerant. To some extent, it is that way. But at least it's firm, unlike some of what I've seen here. I think some of the members here are confusing tolerance with leniency, both of which reside on either side of a very fine line. If we are to post in English, then let's do it in a correct manner or not at all. Good evening.
Why does it bother you so much if she is not as good with English as you are? Everyone has to learn some time, and posting here is how she can BECOME better. It is as if you are telling her to learn to read, and taking her books away until she does.
At any rate, we've been through this. Can we please get back to the subject at hand?
Robin,
Why do you feel the need to be the "forum guardian"? Would it bother you so much to mind your own business? Do I have a problem with you? No. So why get involved? In any case, I apologize for the outburst and you may now continue to regularly scheduled programming.
P.S. This forum is for displaying finished products, not works in progress. All I'm telling her (and all the others who fall in her category) is to come here prepared to use English correctly. Learning English is elementary and has no place in a literary forum. BUT...I'll lay off. My point is established, I'm done here. Please, continue with atheistic debate.
Why do I feel the need to be the "forum guardian"? Take a look at my original avatar--that should clear things up. If I think someone is being unfairly persecuted, I'll say so. These forums certainly aren't for finished products--even the General Writing and Personal Poetry forums aren't for finished products. Mastering a language that isn't your own is far from elementary and is not an overnight process. It's a learning experience, and if people can't learn here, what's the point?
On the question of atheism, I'm curious: what is the dominant opinion of atheists nowadays? I'm interested in learning the religious point of view on us pagans.
Ok! thank you and good bye.Quote:
Originally Posted by XXdarkclarityXX
Anymore off-topic comments will be deleted.
Discuss the topic, not the poster.
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Why do I feel the need to be the "forum guardian"? Take a look at my original avatar--that should clear things up. If I think someone is being unfairly persecuted, I'll say so. QUOTE]
Yes, that avator shows how fair and genteel you are .. Robin.. :thumbs_up
unlike others,..
anyway.. i think he hates me coz of what i said..not my language itself..even if he said so ..!
Robin, Logos and Scheherazade thank u very much
Falling*Moon-
I never said I hated you. I said I hated your methods and the fact that they are tolerated on this forum. Well, hate is a bit of a strong word. I would use "irritated by".Yes, there's the proper term. If you don't know what those two words mean maybe you could ask our resident superhero, since he seems to have all the answers :rolleyes: .
Back to atheism, people. I'd like to point out that I did not ask for the most recent interjection by Falling*Moon and am merely defending myself.
OK Finally read all of it and I hav quite a few things to say and its going top be badly spelt so this is a prewarnng:D
OK working backwards falling moon ,
right well Im not saying I belive this but to make it clearer if by kamikaze you mean the "groups" thats not quite what they belive what they belive is that bykilling and its not nonbelivers its an equivlent of idolaters, they will help spred the light of islam ( faulty logic but they are all brain washed) and should they die in the process they would have forfilled one of the ways of becoming a martyr (Others include dieing aslow agonising death like in a fire with belief strong in your heart) and thus secure a place in heaven forthemeselves and 70 of there family. he fact that this reasoning can only be backed up by cutting out and ignorting whople partsof the quarn and twisting all sorts of things is besides the point.Quote:
but those stupid kamikazes believe if they kill – what they call- nonbelievers they will go to Paradise alone and God will love them alone ..On the other hand, Some of them think of it as a revenge to these stupid unnecessary Wars the US leading upon the world.
But what you said about Adam and Eve story interested me whats the christian version then, they werent punished becasue they disobeyed, but for somthing else? :confused:
mily you said somwhere about amazons and people who never heard of GOd going to Hell? I asked pretty much the same question and there was that person(sorry lost track of your name) said that he no longer belived in traditional Islam because people like mother teresa who are Gooddont go to heave? Well as far as Ive allways understood it all belivers (Muslims, chrstiens Jews and another group caled Hanify'een in arabic (followers of Abraham)) stand a very good chance at heavn and in fact no good deed goes unrewarded, basically people go to hell first and burn off the bad deeds even muslims but eventually they get to hevean.
Well that was long, but Im really intersted in Adam and Eve angle so anyone??
:D
All atheists might find this link amusing: http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.com/index.htm
It's called the Skeptic's Annotated Bible and it makes a lot of good points.
Happy reading! :cool:
Night, I'm hesitant to answer because I'm not certain which bit about Adam and Eve you mean. What's the Q'uran's version of Adam and Eve? Then I can tell you if the Bible's version is any different. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightshade
the full version? OK then
God had the world the Angels (made of light no free will or ability to think for themselves) and the Djin( made of fire and have free will very like humans). Lucifer was Gods most bekloved creaion because he was the most devout of all creatures becaus he was the most devout of the djin and rivaled the angels in devotion though he had freedom of choice in how he behaved.
So one day God said to the angles " I will create on the Earth a follower" And the angels said " " Would you create onit one who would (polute/dirty/destroy ) and shed blood on it) when we are everlastingly praising and worshipping you, and He said I know what you do not" Anyway God creates Adam from dirt and taught him "all the names" gave him knowledge then displayed him to the angels and asked the angels to tell Him there( their ) names if they were so smart, and they replied We dont know anything but wha t you tell us and god had Adam tell them the names and said see I know what you do not and then had all of them bow to Adam. So they all did except Lucifer who's pride caused him to belive his fire to be superior than Adams dirt menaing that he shouldnt bow to an infereior being. SO his obediance lowered him in rank. Anyway God let Adam and eve wnder around Heaven as they willed but told them to keep away from this one tree to show theier obediance an love of God, anyway Satan Seduced and tricked them so they (all 3 of them) lost their place in Eden and " decended enimeys of each other " until the day of judgment.
Anyway Adam (and eve) prayed to be forgiven and was forgiven so God Sad they still all had to be punished but he would send many (reminders/lights/messages) to help people stay on the right path and not stray.
Interesingly there is a story (but Im not sure if its in the Qurarn it may only be a hadeeth) that Satan approached Moses (as the only human who ever spoke directly to God) askng him to interceed with God on his (satans Behalf ashe regreted what he'd done) But when it came to it satan didnt repent enoough to do what he was asked so is still Damned.
So emily or someone now wil tyou tell me the christian and while Im at it the Jewish version as well??
:D
Well I know the Christian version (and I far as I know this is the Jewish version as well). It follows the same general idea as the Islamic Creation story, but with some key differences:
1) Adam and Eve were on a paradise on Earth (the garden of Eden), rather than in heaven
2) Humans are beleived to be slighlty LOWER than the angels rather than higher
3) Thus Lucifer did not sin by refusing to bow down to man, as angels are seen to be above man, rather, he was jealous of God's powers, and led a rebellion against God with 1/3 of all the angels, thus the notion of a "fallen angel". This all happened before the creation of humans
Those are the main differences. The rest of the story is pretty basic. God gives them one commandement: Don't eat from the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Lucifer, in the form of a snake, tempts Eve to do so, she does and offers Adam some of the fruit. They are expelled from the garden and punished: Adam (males): will have to work to gain a living; Eve (females): will have pain in childbirth and be dominated by men; and their totally intimate connection with God was broken.
Hope this was helpful, Nightshade.