I note to myself His profound lack of love and justice, then I openly mock Him and follow it up by stating from whence this mockery proceeds.Quote:
Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC
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I note to myself His profound lack of love and justice, then I openly mock Him and follow it up by stating from whence this mockery proceeds.Quote:
Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC
I couldn't get that site to load on my computing device. Whatever the case, I doubt it could prove to me that god exists and I should drop speaking up for education based on reality. Best of luck with it though.
God's existence is somewhat of an open matter. His character, however, his character is certain. Just as we can't say with 100 percent certainty whether the boogyman exists or not, but we know for a fact that if he does he is one mean sob.
Very good company, Mr. Darcy. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Darcy88
According to the 2001 census, 21.6% of Albertans are secular (that's where I'm from) and we're by far the most conservative province.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varenne Rodin
A grainy screenshot of a random person's correspondence that you found on a Christian website. That's a... uh... good point you got there...Quote:
Originally Posted by BienvenuJDC
Einstein defined insanity as doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, so we really shouldn't expect ourselves to be able to change Bien's mind. He's like fifty years old and he's faced direct proof that his position is invalid since he was a child, if he hasn't conceded by now then he won't concede. It's eerie, but I'm still adamant in my belief that people like this won't make a dent in scientific and technological advancement because no one takes them seriously (this is especially true outside of the United States).
Man, I love Canada. I just need a place in Canada that has California weather and I'll be all set.
I'm afraid no place in Canada has California weather. My area is the most temperate, and we still have to deal with 5 straight months of cold and rain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varenne Rodin
I agree Juniper. He won't change his mind. Its not only evolution and carbon dating he's pitted himself against. Its a whole plethora of well-established theories (facts.) Continental drift, astrophysics, the formation of mountains, archaeology, genetics. Pretty much all of science. His faith is a quixotic candle stubbornly defying a category 5 hurricane.
Rain I can handle, cold too. Too much snow (to the point where I can't leave home for weeks) or too much heat and humidity get me down.
Radiometric dating doesn't solely rely on Carbon-14 dating either, there are a number of radioactive isotopes that can be used to accurately date compounds over large time scales. They also provide consistent results when cross-examined.
Excellent post. The cross-examination is the key to its correctness.Quote:
Originally Posted by OrphanPip
You say that now. Coming from California I bet half-way into a BC winter you'd be cursing the dark grey sky. I've quit thinking of our seasons as being four in number. Instead I consider them but two - wet and dry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varenne Rodin
No he's not "like fifty years old, he'll be 39 on Wednesday.Quote:
Originally Posted by JuniperWoolf
I don't think so, and I don't know if I want it to be. As a non-religious person, I can freely state my beliefs and opinions. I want everyone to be able to do the same. The problem arises when one view over takes every other. That will not happen, and it shouldn't-except in school concerning the topic of evolution. As an educator in a middle school in Massachusetts, we keep religion out of evolution- and we teach evolution in science class. We do not talk about or criticize a religious belief concerning it though-that is the way it should be. Those students who question it and state they don't believe in scientific evolution are told to discuss it with their parents. Maybe I just opened up a can of worms here, oh well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varenne Rodin
The validity of the evidence has nothing to do withQuote:
Originally Posted by JuniperWoolf
* how grainy it is
* where it was posted
You did NOTHING to check out the real validity
As was shown above, you are incorrect, you do a very poor job at research even though there is information that is easily obtained.Quote:
He's like fifty years old
There HASN'T been any direct proof shown. You have not provided any proof of anything. You don't seem to understand that making a claim that something (that is undocumented) is evidence, isn't evidence, nor is it proof. You take for granted that Carbon 14 and the like has been accurately applied to date things, even though I have shown you one example that the dating method was used to date bones (that are supposedly millions of years old) and the Carbon 14 dating method brought about the results that they were only nine thousand years old. You REFUSE to accept evidence that there may be inaccuracies in the methods used by scientists...because the evidence is....grainy? Your mindset seems quite unchangeable and you're 23 years old. I bet that you will have the ability to change someday though...if you open your mind.Quote:
and he's faced direct proof that his position is invalid since he was a child,
[QUOTE=Varenne Rodin;1101119]I couldn't get that site to load on my computing device. Whatever the case, I doubt it could prove to me that god exists and I should drop speaking up for education based on reality. Best of luck with it though.[/QUO
Make yourself relaxed.... beside nature... look deeply around you.... to your body and how it is wee made... every thing is controled.. how you breathe .. you move and speak ... then you will know that you are not a chance or accident... you are created by a Great creatore... By God.