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Have read that embrassing news. What surprised me much is the fact that these two shameless couple let themselves be broadcasted all over the world. Oops!
You're right. How could they not be hiding in shame? Shame is something that doesn't exist anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by muhsin
Interesting statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Virgil
but wouldn't it be even more weird to do something (whether it's incest or whatever else) and then hide in shame? why not either do it and be open about it or leave it altogether in the first place?Quote:
Originally Posted by Virgil
Reminds me of some of the religious right. They preach and rally against certain things but then latter get caught doing those same things. Why even brooch the subject if you know you do it????Quote:
Originally Posted by SleepyWitch
No! It's disgusting!
'The law is nature! The law is only another word for what has a right to happen. If the law is wrong, that's because it is unnatural'
there are many things that are not legal and yet perfectly natural, a conundrum perhaps?Quote:
Originally Posted by kelby_lake
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In my opinion, everyone should stop butting in each others lives, as long as they do not harm them let people do what they will. Morality is a matter of opinion after all.
why do people feel the need to involve themselves in others lives, it's their own bodies for goddess sake. If you don't like it then about it, but don't preach or condemn or make laws that cannot be fully put into place.
Leave people be as they are.
I guess you're right. But coming out with it only shows what a lack of understanding they have on this.Quote:
Originally Posted by SleepyWitch
There are those who preach and follow and those that preach and fail. Human failing is universal. Actually you were more outraged when i said I spit out my gum than over incest. It goes to show you everyone preaches something. Or all the peaching I hear over global warming and not using fossil fuels. It's a question of values. Spitting out my gum is pretty insignificant to me. But I consider incest contemptable behavior.Quote:
Originally Posted by papayahed
I think you're confused. This is what I'm talking about:Quote:
Originally Posted by Virgil
David Vitter:
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In 2006, he told The Times-Picayune, “I’m a conservative who opposes radically redefining marriage, the most important social institution in human history.”[43]
Why would you come out and say something like that when you know you're visiting a prostitute on a regular basis??
As for gum and incest. You're right I don't care about incest, it's not something I would personally partake in however I'm not interested in what other people do in their bedroom. Now gum, there is a possiblity I may step on your gum and that will be a pain in the butt to scrap off. I have a thing about littering, I think it's low class to throw stuff on the ground one could easily throw in a garbage can.Quote:
Vitter, a Republican senator in his first term, has acknowledged being involved with Palfrey's escort service. But after issuing brief statements apologizing for "a very serious sin," he has ducked follow-up questions. At trial, he would not have that luxury.
As for global warming I don't see the preaching. The facts are humans are putting more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere then ever before. It's been proven that the earth goes through climate changes periodically; We may be in one of those now changes now and It's hard to quantify the impact humans are having on that change.
What I know is that humans are pumping toxins into the air, into the land, and into our waters. Hell, I do all three on a daily basis. Looking for ways to minimize that impact and talking about it is hardly hypocritical (a word you throw around quite often). What's the issue? You've already mentioned your views on the issue many times and despite that some people here are environmentalists and believe it's a worthwile cause.
The only thing I have to say to this whole thread is this really I didnt know half the stuff that is illegal in the UK is illegal, and that is disturbing, and also raises the question if you look at the stepsiblings bit how many people actually know thats illegal? and why if people are concious of this is it often marketed as'romantic' to young teens in teen romance novels, and in quite a few teen non romance novels that I can picture in my head but think what they are called...disturbing,
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Originally Posted by TheFifthElement
step siblings were added to the Sexual Offences Act in 2003, perhaps a reflection of the increasing fluidity of the family unit; so it is probably that the fiction you're referring to pre-dates the offence.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightshade
Why am I confused? Like I said some preach and follow and some preach and fail. Obviously he failed. Frankly one of the insinuations of what I got was that you were implying that I preach but behind the scenes I practice incest. I'm preaching against incest. If you want to blur the argument with all sorts of extraneous issues, then we'll have a convoluted discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by papayahed
Right. Like I said it's a question of values. You see an impact to society from what makes you outraged. Others who think that incest is wrong equally see it having a deleterious impact to society. You seem to be scoffing at others values. Which is ok, I proudly scoff at the environmentalist's values.Quote:
As for gum and incest. You're right I don't care about incest, it's not something I would personally partake in however I'm not interested in what other people do in their bedroom. Now gum, there is a possiblity I may step on your gum and that will be a pain in the butt to scrap off. I have a thing about littering, I think it's low class to throw stuff on the ground one could easily throw in a garbage can.
As for global warming I don't see the preaching. The facts are humans are putting more greenhouse gases into the atmosphere then ever before. It's been proven that the earth goes through climate changes periodically; We may be in one of those now changes now and It's hard to quantify the impact humans are having on that change.
What I know is that humans are pumping toxins into the air, into the land, and into our waters. Hell, I do all three on a daily basis. Looking for ways to minimize that impact and talking about it is hardly hypocritical (a word you throw around quite often). What's the issue? You've already mentioned your views on the issue many times and despite that some people here are environmentalists and believe it's a worthwile cause.
Edit: Actually that's not true. I scoff at their assessment of the data and the impact, not their values.
oh bull****, virgie I in no way insinuated you are a closet incestigator. You know that I was responding to Sleepys comment about hiding in shame, (which reminds me of David Vitter, Larry Craig etc...)Quote:
Originally Posted by Virgil
The only thing I said was I don't care, I don't see that as scoffingQuote:
Right. Like I said it's a question of values. You see an impact to society from what makes you outraged. Others who think that incest is wrong equally see it having a deleterious impact to society. You seem to be scoffing at others values. Which is ok, I proudly scoff at the environmentalist's values.
Which is funny because I scoff at your assessment. I've seen some of the impact toxins can have on our environment and humans firsthand. Save the flathead minnows!!!!Quote:
Edit: Actually that's not true. I scoff at their assessment of the data and the impact, not their values
:lol: Ok sorry if I hit a nerve. Peace. :) "Incestigator?" :lol: :lol: Is there such a word. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by papayahed
Actually I didn't know, but if you're being fair you can add some politicians of the other political party. You can add Eliot Spitzer of New York to that list. Hypocrisy goes around to every one. Like I said human failing is universal.Quote:
You know that I was responding to Sleepys comment about hiding in shame, (which reminds me of David Vitter, Larry Craig etc...)
That's not global warming. If there are real environmental issues, and I'm sure they're out there, I support them for the most part. But a cost-benefit analysis has to be performed. Yeah you can find traces of anything in tap water, but just because it's there to a minimal level doesn't mean it's harmful. My environmental passion is relegated to preserving wilderness, wetlands, and wildlife. Actually I'm disheartened that wolf hunting will be allowed in the northwest. It's good that wolves have made a comeback through the wildlife act, but now some will actively kill them because of their success.Quote:
Which is funny because I scoff at your assessment. I've seen some of the impact toxins can have on our environment and humans firsthand. Save the flathead minnows!!!!