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Yes Yanni,
Not forgetting JC Bach and CPE Bach. Who, for 30 pieces of silver were drawn in to the total control of 'musical history'. And here, an idea of the organised resistance to genuine musical achievement -
http://www.mediafire.com/i/?4dp0dmg16tgaw36
Magnificat
BWV 243/1
Opening
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlKcMJwcgq4
Before quoting unsourced nonsense on GFHandel/JSBach, you better make sure there ever was a real "Matheson" and a real 'Marpurg"-other than just pennames.
After making sure there ever was a real JCFBach.
As for JC and CPE Bachs: They woudn't have survived had they not played along to cover up their father's multiple identities (there were more than just "Handel/Bach", as already outlined in previous posts).
Yanni,
Before you suggest men did not exist you should at least read their biographies. Then tell us why (after you have read them). If you cannot find biographical details of Matheson or Marpurg just tell me. I will gladly give you 20 biographical references on both. None of which you have read. And none of which you have disproved.
Finally, we do not and cannot prove what does not exist. We prove what does exist. The evidence shows Matheson and Marpurg existed. Your job, if you want to gain credit, is to prove they were pen-names. And we are waiting. Again.
As for JC Bach (a subject on which you really should do some study) he was a friend in Leipzig of Abel during the days of their youth. Meeting again in London years later. (They even lived together for a time). JC Bach was 'converted' at a time when his father (JS Bach) was under fierce criticism from the University of Leipzig. And JC Bach joined up with 'them'. The rest, as they say, is history. Ask Padre Martini. Or go to Benedictine Monastery archives of Einsiedeln. Where virtually the entire church music of JC Bach is still in their archives. Much of this written before JC Bach came to England.
Leipzig at this time was a centre for Venetian ideas. The University was hostile to JS Bach. And that meant that the British Empire was also hostile to JS Bach and his potential to influence music across Europe. Thus Bach's sons were persuaded to side with the 'British'. In actual fact it was, as history says, a fatal decision. Because the British were, of course, inflitrated by the occultism of Venice. And Britain itself, and it's new empire, was modelled on that of Venice.
'How the Venetian System was Transplanted into England' (W. Tarpley)
http://www.mediafire.com/?1azpt757hpe66dv
and -
http://www.mediafire.com/i/?4dp0dmg16tgaw36
(Another free lesson to Yanni). In the meantime -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIcin...eature=related
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Originally Posted by yanni
I have already covered the subjects Marpurg, JCBach and JCFBach in this here forum, obviously in your 'absence'. You are still wellcome however to retry providing evidence that they, anyone of them, really existed, AFTER, at long last, explaining and qualifying the credibility of your never mentioned 'sources' (who just happen to be the very same, and more, 'pennames' and aliases).
Let's start with Johann Christian Bach.
Are you saying he never existed ?
History (and the church records in Leipzig) provide evidence that he was born on 5th September 1735 in Leipzig. History says he spent his childhood in Leipzig. And history says he later came to Germany, Italy and England. At least, so says the actual evidence.
And you believe what, exactly ? You have 'covered' nothing. You have totally ignored the plain, verifiable, musical and biographical evidence. In 1773 JC Bach began a legal case in London. This too you will ignore. It is pointless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TD5N0...eature=related
'Are you sure, Ideefix?', Obelix asked!
Yanni,
Here is a work for you. The ‘Toy Symphony’ (1765). A work often attributed to and published in the name of a certain Leopold Mozart of Salzburg - also frequently published, sold and performed in the name of his 'genius' son, Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, and also (though it will hardly surprise you) in the name of a third Salzburg based composer, Michael Haydn, and even in the name of a certain 'Papa' Joseph Haydn (whose fraternal friendship with the above is very touching). Before, finally, at last, being recognised in 1992-4 as having been actually composed by the virtually unknown composer Edmund Angerer (1740-94).
The real number of symphonies and orchestral works composed by Herr Leopold Mozart was….... zero. (He became a part time dealer in music only. Friends in high places, you know ? ). But don’t tell the children, will you ?
The show must go on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_SvPOSmdzQ
p.s. 'JC Bach never existed'. So says Yanni. But the truth is JC Bach did exist. So says history. It is the music that is attributed to him that is the problem. Problem/Solution. Thank You.
JS Bach
Prelude and Fugue No. 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tw-0P...eature=related
Glenn Gould
Undoubtably, Ideefix, 'solid' evidence presentation runs in parallel to the realisation that, thru www, the old pile of lies will collapse, not just on the Mozarts:
Durch die Auffindung einer Notenhandschrift im Jahr 1992 scheint jedoch Edmund Angerer eindeutig als Urheber dieser Komposition nachgewiesen zu sein.
Happy Easter !
Jesus Christ came into the world to defeat the devil. And He did it.
JS Bach
Concerto
BWV 1041/3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQjC6...eature=related
Ofcourse he did.
Likewise!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Musicology
Cum Sancto Spiritu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWRrg...eature=related
Courtesy of youknowho's Aspen Institute: "Nothing but Mozart"*!
http://www.instantencore.com/work/wo...x?work=5049551
*Readers are advised to check thru http://www.online-literature.com/for...t=51451&page=9 on the existence or not of Johann Sebastian Bach, aka G.F.Handel etc.
You are quite right Yanni.
The events of Easter are, however, THE exception. As we hear here -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWRrg...eature=related
Certainly, Robert, Bachandel has become, for some people at least, part of the message for an everlasting life in prosperity.
However your URL doesn't load! Try http://www.kochministry-germany.de/
Yanni,
Bach is of course a free gift. Those who are really poor believe differently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWRrg...eature=related